Glasgow Surname Project

Individual research record

John Glasgow

c. 1618 – ?

Glasgow-3015 · 1 mapped association

Duddingston, Midlothian, ScotlandDeath place unknown

At a glance

Identity & family

Tree links organise the family; documentary status still varies.

1Mapped records
2Close relations
3Evidence items
12Candidate leads
Birth
c. 1618 · Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland
Death
Not recorded · Place not recorded
Parents
Not recorded
Spouses
Helen (Patoune) Glasgow
Children
John Glasgow
Gender
Male
WikiTree
Glasgow-3015
Research clusters
Scotland One-Tree profile leads
Mapped descendants
1

Comparison context

These child positions and checks are the subject details used to rank possible parents below.

Naming sequence used by the parentage model

Paternal grandfather positionJohn Glasgow (1638)
Maternal grandfather positionNot identifiable from dated child profiles
Maternal grandmother positionNot identifiable from dated child profiles
Paternal grandmother positionNot identifiable from dated child profiles

Known-position checks: 0 support · 0 conflict. Ordinals retain unnamed children and recognise reused names.

Relationship comparison

Potential parents or duplicates

Compare scored leads with the subject details above—not proof.

Higher-signal leadReview carefullyWeak lead

Possible fathers5 leads

Automated fit30/100
Weak Lead
Dates1590–1650Generation28 years age gapRecorded placesLanarkshire, Scotland · Mid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland · Lanarkshire — exact locality unprovedIndependent clue breadth · 6Age · Broad Geography · Same-Sex Generational Naming · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Spouse · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • known spouse Bessie (Robertson) Glasgow had a bounded, possibly plausible maternal age (28) at the subject's birth (+3)

candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-1086) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

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  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • weak broad-area overlap: midlothian (+1; not a locality match)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • known spouse Bessie (Robertson) Glasgow had a bounded, possibly plausible maternal age (28) at the subject's birth (+3)
  • candidate and subject share the given name John (+4; weak direct parent-child name recurrence, 278 public profiles)
  • candidate's name matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position for a male subject (+4; catalogue rarity 0, John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-1086) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

Automated fit17/100
Weak Lead
Dates1608–1685Generationnominally 10 years; approximate dates permit about 16–20 years age gapRecorded placesMid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland · Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland · Mid CalderIndependent clue breadth · 7Age · Common Grandparent Birth-Order Naming · Indirect Multi-Factor Convergence · Mapped Proximity · Same-Sex Generational Naming · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • 3 independent unlinked-profile clue types converge (+5): household chronology, locality, naming
  • the nominal 10-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (16–20 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 30 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)

parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3331) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

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  • the nominal 10-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (16–20 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 30 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • mapped Mid Calder is 21.5 km from the subject's birth-period Duddingston — Midlothian (+1; one or both placements are unproved)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • candidate and subject share the given name John (+4; weak direct parent-child name recurrence, 278 public profiles)
  • candidate's name matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position for a male subject (+4; catalogue rarity 0, John in 278 profiles)
  • the subject would fill the first son position among the candidate's dated children, and the candidate's linked father John Glasgow shares the subject's common given name (+2; Scottish grandparent-name pattern, John in 278 public profiles; WikiTree: confident parent; weak alone)
  • 3 independent unlinked-profile clue types converge (+5): household chronology, locality, naming

Deductions and cautions: parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3331) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

Show 3 lower-scoring possible fathers
Automated fit7/100
Weak Lead
Dates1579–?Generation39 years age gapRecorded placesLinlithgowshire, Scotland · Linlithgowshire / West Lothian — exact locality unprovedIndependent clue breadth · 6Age · Contemporaneous Household Conflict · Household · Same-Sex Generational Naming · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • plausible 39-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 59 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)

same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10); candidate's household recorded John Glasgow in Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire, Scotland within 1 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3056) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

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  • plausible 39-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 59 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • subject's birth fits within the candidate's overall child-bearing span (1613–1622) (+3; children are not tied to one spouse)
  • candidate and subject share the given name John (+4; weak direct parent-child name recurrence, 278 public profiles)
  • candidate's name matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position for a male subject (+4; catalogue rarity 0, John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10); candidate's household recorded John Glasgow in Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire, Scotland within 1 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3056) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

Automated fit29/100
Chronology-Only Fallback
Dates1582–1647Generation36 years age gapRecorded placesGlasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland · Duddingston, Edinburghshire, Scotland · GlasgowIndependent clue breadth · 6Age · Contemporaneous Household Conflict · Spouse · Spouse-Specific Child Window · Two-Generation · Undated LocalitySame-spouse child windowDeborah (Ivey) GlasgowCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • plausible 36-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • known spouse Deborah (Ivey) Glasgow had a plausible maternal age (29) at the subject's birth (+7)
  • candidate has only broad or undated birth-locality overlap: duddingston (+6)

candidate's household recorded James Glasgow in Inveresk and Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland within 2 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality)

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  • plausible 36-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 56 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • candidate has only broad or undated birth-locality overlap: duddingston (+6)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • subject's birth fits between children attributed to the same parental couple (1615–1620) (+6; other parent Deborah (Ivey) Glasgow)
  • known spouse Deborah (Ivey) Glasgow had a plausible maternal age (29) at the subject's birth (+7)

Deductions and cautions: candidate's household recorded James Glasgow in Inveresk and Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland within 2 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality)

Automated fit20/100
Chronology-Only Fallback
Dates1590–1645Generation28 years age gapRecorded placesGlasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland · South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland · GlasgowIndependent clue breadth · 6Age · Broad Geography · Contemporaneous Household Conflict · Household · Spouse · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • known spouse Christian (Scot) Glasgow had a plausible maternal age (28) at the subject's birth (+7)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)

candidate's household recorded Archibald Glasgow in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland within 0 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality)

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  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • weak broad-area overlap: midlothian (+1; not a locality match)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • another recorded child shares the subject's birth year (+2; possible twins or date uncertainty)
  • known spouse Christian (Scot) Glasgow had a plausible maternal age (28) at the subject's birth (+7)

Deductions and cautions: candidate's household recorded Archibald Glasgow in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland within 0 years of the subject (−12; no contemporaneous child is indexed in the subject's locality)

Possible mothers5 leads

Automated fit33/100
Weak Lead
Dates1590–?Generation28 years age gapRecorded placesSouth Leith, Midlothian, Scotland · South LeithIndependent clue breadth · 5Age · Indirect Multi-Factor Convergence · Mapped Proximity · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • 3 independent unlinked-profile clue types converge (+5): household chronology, locality, naming
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)

No indexed conflict; documentary proof still required

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  • plausible 28-year parent-child age gap (+18)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • mapped South Leith is 4.1 km from the subject's birth-period Duddingston — Midlothian (+3; one or both placements are unproved)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • a candidate spouse matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position (+3; John in 278 profiles)
  • 3 independent unlinked-profile clue types converge (+5): household chronology, locality, naming

Deductions and cautions: No indexed conflict; documentary proof still required

Automated fit7/100
Weak Lead
Dates1590–?Generationat least 28 years age gapRecorded placesLanarkshire — exact locality unprovedIndependent clue breadth · 3Age · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • bounded birth date gives a parent-child age gap of at least 28 years (+10; true age remains uncertain)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)

same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

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  • bounded birth date gives a parent-child age gap of at least 28 years (+10; true age remains uncertain)
  • candidate's birth is 48 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a compatible grandparent-generation interval (+4)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • a candidate spouse matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position (+3; John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

Show 3 lower-scoring possible mothers
Automated fit4/100
Weak Lead
Dates1610–?Generationnominally 8 years; approximate dates permit about 15–28 years age gapRecorded placesMid CalderIndependent clue breadth · 3Age · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • the nominal 8-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–28 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 28 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)

parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); locality comparison is unavailable because one or both profiles lack adequate place data (no deduction); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3331) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

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  • the nominal 8-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–28 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 28 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • a candidate spouse matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position (+3; John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); locality comparison is unavailable because one or both profiles lack adequate place data (no deduction); candidate already has another child named John Glasgow (Glasgow-3331) without a documented death permitting name reuse (−4; check whether the child profiles duplicate or conflict)

Automated fit0/100
Weak Lead
Dates1610–1628Generationnominally 8 years; approximate dates permit about 15–28 years age gapRecorded placesStevenson, Lanarkshire, Scotland · Stevenston — AyrshireIndependent clue breadth · 3Age · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • the nominal 8-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–28 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 28 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)

parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

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  • the nominal 8-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–28 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 28 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • a candidate spouse matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position (+3; John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

Automated fit0/100
Weak Lead
Dates1607–?Generationnominally 11 years; approximate dates permit about 15–31 years age gapRecorded placesGlasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland · GlasgowIndependent clue breadth · 3Age · Sex-Aware Ordered Naming · Two-GenerationCurrent relationshipNot currently linked as parent
Strongest signals
  • the nominal 11-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–31 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 31 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)

parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

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  • the nominal 11-year gap is too small, but the approximate birth date permits a narrow biologically viable interval (15–31 years) (+4)
  • candidate's birth is 31 years before the subject's earliest dated child (1638), a marginal two-generation interval (+1)
  • same research cluster (+0; grouping is not kinship evidence)
  • a candidate spouse matches the first dated son John Glasgow, the expected father position (+3; John in 278 profiles)

Deductions and cautions: parentage requires the approximate birth estimate to be early enough (no deduction); same country, but no indexed locality overlap (−10)

How parent leads are calculated

Automated leads use birth surnames—not married surnames—as parental eligibility, role-specific biological age limits, bounded and approximate-date uncertainty, household chronology, specific time-aware localities, mapped distance, tenancy succession, migration destinations and sex-aware Scottish naming positions across generations. People already attached as the subject's parents stay in the identity summary and are excluded from this alternative-candidate list, regardless of relationship confidence. The main calibration uses clues available on disconnected profiles; existing parent and sibling links are retained as comparison context rather than treated as transferable evidence. Common ordered names and grandparent-to-child echoes receive a small non-zero weight, so a John or James match can support several independent criteria without producing a lead alone. Rare names, repeated bearers and bundles across otherwise distinct branches receive substantially more weight according to catalogue frequency. An exact migration place is weighted by its rarity and repetition across both branches; a shared destination country is worth only one point. Extra weight is added only when at least three independent clue types converge: naming, locality, specific migration, household chronology or collateral networks. Sparse profiles retain a clearly labelled chronology-only fallback instead of disappearing. Countries, states, counties and research clusters do not count as a shared locality, and fallback, broad representative or kin-inferred coordinates are excluded from distance scoring. Shared descendant profiles are removed before branch-name comparison. A candidate already recorded as a parent-in-law is excluded. A confident or independently supported parent is treated as settled; uncertain and unassessed attachments remain open to alternative comparison. A different linked parent, an uncle/aunt or grandparent path, and a matching existing child profile prevent an alternative from being classified as a strong direct-parent lead until the underlying tree conflict or duplicate is resolved. Familiar forms such as Bessie are normalised. Surname remains an eligibility filter worth zero points.

Naming customs, shared farms and occupations are circumstantial. Children, spouses and collateral relatives may be missing, and tree-derived family networks are not independent evidence. Scores rank research leads; they do not prove parentage.

Same-name candidate

John GlasgowGlasgow-1088

Automated fit57/100
Similar Person
Dates1619–?PlacesGlasgow, Lanarkshire, ScotlandParent comparisonNo shared parent is indexed
Why it may fit
  • same first and last name (+18)
  • birth years within 1 (+25)
  • matching child name: John Glasgow

No indexed conflict

Full comparison detail
  • same first and last name (+18)
  • birth years within 1 (+25)
  • matching child name: John Glasgow

Conflicts: No indexed conflict

Same-name candidate

John GlasgowGlasgow-1084

Automated fit51/100
Similar Person
Dates1616–?PlacesMid Calder, Midlothian, ScotlandParent comparisonNo shared parent is indexed
Why it may fit
  • same first and last name (+18)
  • birth years within 2 (+25)
  • overlapping locality (+8)

No indexed conflict

Full comparison detail
  • same first and last name (+18)
  • birth years within 2 (+25)
  • overlapping locality (+8)

Conflicts: No indexed conflict

How duplicate leads are calculated

Dates are eligibility gates, not merely deductions: chronologically impossible people are excluded. Dates, places, spouses, parent certainty and children's profiles and names are then compared. A high score is a prompt to inspect records, not a merge recommendation.

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Research & records

Latest case researchThe current conclusion from the durable research case file.Updated

Conclusion

Glasgow-3015

The 11 January 1638 Duddingston entry directly identifies John Glasgow and Helen Patoune as parents of John-3014. It does not identify the father's birth or parents.

Use born before about 1618, place unknown, uncertain, estimated from parenthood, rather than presenting Duddingston 1618 as a recorded birth. Glasgow-1084 is a possible same-person lead only; do not merge without a parish or marriage bridge.

See the graph-claim audit.

Life and record timelineChronological mapped occurrences and their underlying sources.1 record
b. 1618

Profile-stated birthplace: Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland

Duddingston — Midlothian

One-Tree export profile fields are search leads, not sources; relationships are shown only where the export supplies parent links.

One-Tree profile leadunknown
Source and mapping detail

WikiTree profile export for Glasgow-3015

No sufficiently specific citation match found.

Precision: Settlement/parish centrepoint

Evidence assessmentWhat is supported, uncertain or disputed in the current case model.3 claims
2Unknown
1Tree Only

Documented or strongly supported

No claims in this category have been formally assessed.

Working hypotheses and conflicts

No claims in this category have been formally assessed.

Research questionsOpen problems, missing bridges and the next records to inspect.0 open

No formal open question is recorded for this person.

Sources and provenanceStructured citations and source-quality classifications.3 sources

Source or provenance: quality describes the record layer, not every conclusion drawn from it.

  1. unknown HELENE PATOUNE Duddingston 1638
  2. unknown JOHNE 11-01-1638 JOHNE GLASGOW/HELENE PATOUNE FR38 (FR38) Duddingston 684/ U
  3. tree_only WikiTree profile export for Glasgow-3015
Technical profile and raw captureDataset metadata, machine dossier and captured WikiTree biography.Advanced

WikiTree profile information

Dataset: ONT_Glasco_2026-08-18T16_05.json · generated 2026-08-20

Machine-readable dossier

WikiTree biography, citations and relationship snapshot

Glasgow-3015 was captured 2026-08-07T09:54:35+00:00; WikiTree profile revision 2025-04-12.

Profile location claims

EventDateLocationStatus
birthDuddingston, Midlothian, ScotlandWikiTree profile field
marriage1638-11-01Duddingston, Midlothian, ScotlandWikiTree relationship field

Immediate relationship snapshot

RelationshipPersonWikiTree IDDates and places returned
ChildrenJohn GlasgowGlasgow-30141638-01-11 · Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland · 0000-00-00
SpousesHelen GlasgowPatoune-111618-00-00 · 0000-00-00 · 1638-11-01 · Duddingston, Midlothian, Scotland

Record-bearing passages

  • Biography John was born about 1618. Sources

    • HELENE PATOUNE Duddingston 1638
    • JOHNE 11-01-1638 JOHNE GLASGOW/HELENE PATOUNE FR38 (FR38) Duddingston 684/ U

Profile source citations

  1. HELENE PATOUNE Duddingston 1638
  2. JOHNE 11-01-1638 JOHNE GLASGOW/HELENE PATOUNE FR38 (FR38) Duddingston 684/ U
Full captured biography text
Biography
John was born about 1618. 
Sources
* HELENE PATOUNE Duddingston 1638
* JOHNE 11-01-1638 JOHNE GLASGOW/HELENE PATOUNE FR38 (FR38) Duddingston 684/ U

Same location / year match with John Glasgow (bef.1616-) - different wife though
Raw WikiTree biography markup
== Biography ==

John was born about 1618. 
== Sources ==
<references />
* HELENE PATOUNE Duddingston 1638
* JOHNE	11-01-1638	JOHNE GLASGOW/HELENE PATOUNE FR38 (FR38)	Duddingston	684/	U

Same location / year match with [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow (bef.1616-)]] - different wife though