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== Biography ==
=== Current father assessment — 28 September 2026 ===

The relationship with [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess, is '''confident''' for John, Ninian's documented brother represented by this profile. Ninian's burgess admission on 23 October 1596 names Robert as his father, and Ninian's testament made on 10 January 1613 calls John his brother. The shared surname, compatible chronology and appearance of Ninian's son Robert among the witnesses at the 1619 baptism support the shared-father reconstruction. This is a conclusion from the combined records; the testament itself does not name John's father.<ref name="Ninian" />

The earlier full-versus-half-sibling caveat below is superseded by this assessment: no concrete evidence identifies a different father. The identification of this brother with the man who married Jonet Mathie in 1618 remains probable and is considered separately below. This confidence change does not establish the marriage or other proposed adult identities as certain.

=== Earlier father analysis — superseded ===

This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]] in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the brothers shared a father, John was a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so both the profile identity and the paternal relationship remain uncertain.

The record-defined man's relationship is supported by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records make Robert the leading father for John if the brothers shared a father. The testament does not state whether John was Ninian's full, paternal half- or maternal half-brother, and the phrase “second son” does not identify John's birth order. Neither record proves that this record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile.<ref name="Ninian">James R. Anderson, ed., ''Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750'' (Scottish Record Society, 1925), [https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up p. 24], entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.”</ref>

John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers.<ref name="Protocols">Robert Renwick, ed., ''Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow'', vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up 12 February 1572/73]; vol. 7, protocol 2002, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up 19 December 1573].</ref>

These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.

=== Possible Marriage and Children ===

This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married '''[[Mathie-159|Jonet Mathie]]''', recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow.<ref name="Marriage1618">“Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618.</ref>
The marriage also fits a longer Mathie–Glasgow association. In 1554 David Mathy and [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]] were fellow burgesses witnessing the same sasines.<ref name="Mathie1554">Robert Renwick, ed., Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow, vol. 1, protocols 183–184, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc07robegoog/page/n90/mode/2up 10 May 1554, printed p. 63].</ref> David’s documented son John may be the writer later associated with the Earl of Glencairn. Tutory retours of 1607 name the deceased John Mathie of Ibert’s brother Matthew, a Glasgow burgess, and John’s lawful children James, David, Agnes and Margaret.<ref name="Ibert1607">Inquisitionum ad Capellam Domini Regis Retornatarum ... Abbreviatio, vol. 2, tutory retours 100–101, 20 January 1607, [https://books.google.com/books?id=PiVDAAAAcAAJ digitised volume]; underlying register, National Records of Scotland, [https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/browsetreeview.aspx?reference=C22 C22/3].</ref>

Jonet was not among those four children, but she may have belonged to the younger Glencairn writer’s household or been an older daughter outside the tutory proceedings. If John was Robert’s son, their marriage may have renewed the association documented between Robert Glasgow and David Mathy in 1554.

The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

* [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow]], christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will.<ref name="John1619">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1089|Jonet Glasgow]], christened 26 September 1622.<ref name="Jonet1622">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1090|George Glasgow]], christened 4 February 1627.<ref name="George1627">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1167|Euphame Glasgow]], christened 30 March 1634.<ref name="Euphame1634">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634.</ref> The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]], as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.

== Research Notes ==
=== Birth Estimate ===

John's only direct birth boundary is that he existed by Ninian's testament of
10 January 1613. Ninian's description as Robert's second son does not establish
that this brother John was the elder or first son, particularly because the
testament does not exclude a maternal half-brother. The structured “before
1572” date is a legacy estimate that is defensible only if John was the adult
fisher already recorded in 1572–73; that identity remains unproved.

No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.

=== Mother ===

John’s mother has not been identified.

Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.

=== Identity Analysis ===

The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

* a brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]]; and
* alive on 10 January 1613.

Because Robert was Ninian's proved father, he is the leading father for John if
The brothers were full or paternal half-brothers. The record does not exclude
a maternal half-brother.

The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;
* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or
* another contemporary man of the same name.

The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]] witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

The former placement under [[Glasgow-3522|William Glasgow]] and [[Herbison-439|Margaret Herbesoun]] relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.

=== Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence ===

This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

* [[Glasgow-1030|John Glasgow]] is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.
* [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow]] is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.
* [[Glasgow-3181|John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis]] cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because his estate was processed by 4 May 1577. His death month reads March, but the year remains unresolved.

A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.

=== Possible Saltcoats identity ===

A different record-defined John Glasgow was a sailor in Saltcoats within Ardrossan parish. He died in December 1636, and his testament dative came before Glasgow Commissary Court in April 1637. The proceeding names '''Isobell Gray''' as his widow and calls '''Katherine and Agnes Glasgow''' the lawful children of the deceased, their father. It does not expressly call Isobell their mother.<ref name="Saltcoats1637">National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, testament dative and inventory of John Glasgow, sailor in Saltcoats, NRS CC9/7/27, register pp. 478–480; original register re-read September 2026; locate by reference through the [https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/legal-records/wills Scotland's People wills search].</ref>

This profile is chronologically compatible with the Saltcoats sailor because its subject's death is unknown. No inspected record, however, connects the Glasgow household of Jonet Mathie to Isobell Gray, Saltcoats, the sailor occupation, Katherine or Agnes. Name and chronology do not override those different household identifiers, so this profile is not the present match. The Saltcoats sailor requires a distinct documentary profile; a later occupation, property, residence or explicit family bridge could justify a merge.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

John Brown or Browne appears in the estate's financial and legal network, but no kinship is stated. The inventory may mention an old fishing boat and equipment; that manuscript reading remains tentative.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

=== Possible 1643 testament index entry ===

The printed FamilySearch index lists John Glasgow “in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride,” dated 17 April 1643; its full-text transcript renders the place as “Rashlic.” The entry is in ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, Glasgow Commissary Court reference CC9/7/28.<ref name="Rashlie1643">FamilySearch, ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, entry for John Glasgow in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride, 17 April 1643, Glasgow Commissary Court CC9/7/28, [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-D98V?view=fullText&keywords=Glasgow&searchForm=advanced&lang=en&groupId=M97N-2NT index image]. This is an image of the printed index, not the underlying testament.</ref>

This profile is one possible match: its subject is chronologically compatible and has no established death date. The index gives no age, occupation, relative or other detail linking the Rashlie resident to this profile. [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow of Linlithgow]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Duddingston]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Mid Calder]] and [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow, born in Glasgow in 1619]] also remain possible same-name candidates. Treat this as an unresolved possible match; 17 April 1643 is the indexed testament date, not a proven date of death, and no death date is entered here.

== Sources ==
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* [[Space:John_Glasgow|John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree]]

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Current profile4=== Current father assessment — 28 September 2026 ===

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Current profile6The relationship with [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess, is '''confident''' for John, Ninian's documented brother represented by this profile. Ninian's burgess admission on 23 October 1596 names Robert as his father, and Ninian's testament made on 10 January 1613 calls John his brother. The shared surname, compatible chronology and appearance of Ninian's son Robert among the witnesses at the 1619 baptism support the shared-father reconstruction. This is a conclusion from the combined records; the testament itself does not name John's father.<ref name="Ninian" />

Replacement profile6The relationship with [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess, is '''confident''' for John, Ninian's documented brother represented by this profile. Ninian's burgess admission on 23 October 1596 names Robert as his father, and Ninian's testament made on 10 January 1613 calls John his brother. The shared surname, compatible chronology and appearance of Ninian's son Robert among the witnesses at the 1619 baptism support the shared-father reconstruction. This is a conclusion from the combined records; the testament itself does not name John's father.<ref name="Ninian" />

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Current profile8The earlier full-versus-half-sibling caveat below is superseded by this assessment: no concrete evidence identifies a different father. The identification of this brother with the man who married Jonet Mathie in 1618 remains probable and is considered separately below. This confidence change does not establish the marriage or other proposed adult identities as certain.

Replacement profile8The earlier full-versus-half-sibling caveat below is superseded by this assessment: no concrete evidence identifies a different father. The identification of this brother with the man who married Jonet Mathie in 1618 remains probable and is considered separately below. This confidence change does not establish the marriage or other proposed adult identities as certain.

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Current profile10=== Earlier father analysis — superseded ===

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Current profile12This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]] in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the brothers shared a father, John was a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so both the profile identity and the paternal relationship remain uncertain.

Replacement profile12This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]] in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the brothers shared a father, John was a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so both the profile identity and the paternal relationship remain uncertain.

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Current profile14The record-defined man's relationship is supported by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records make Robert the leading father for John if the brothers shared a father. The testament does not state whether John was Ninian's full, paternal half- or maternal half-brother, and the phrase “second son” does not identify John's birth order. Neither record proves that this record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile.<ref name="Ninian">James R. Anderson, ed., ''Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750'' (Scottish Record Society, 1925), [https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up p. 24], entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.”</ref>

Replacement profile14The record-defined man's relationship is supported by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records make Robert the leading father for John if the brothers shared a father. The testament does not state whether John was Ninian's full, paternal half- or maternal half-brother, and the phrase “second son” does not identify John's birth order. Neither record proves that this record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile.<ref name="Ninian">James R. Anderson, ed., ''Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750'' (Scottish Record Society, 1925), [https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up p. 24], entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.”</ref>

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Current profile16John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

Replacement profile16John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

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Current profile18A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers.<ref name="Protocols">Robert Renwick, ed., ''Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow'', vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up 12 February 1572/73]; vol. 7, protocol 2002, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up 19 December 1573].</ref>

Replacement profile18A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers.<ref name="Protocols">Robert Renwick, ed., ''Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow'', vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up 12 February 1572/73]; vol. 7, protocol 2002, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up 19 December 1573].</ref>

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Current profile20These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

Replacement profile20These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

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Current profile22John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.

Replacement profile22John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.

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Current profile24=== Possible Marriage and Children ===

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Current profile26This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married '''[[Mathie-159|Jonet Mathie]]''', recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow.<ref name="Marriage1618">“Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618.</ref>

Replacement profile26This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married '''[[Mathie-159|Jonet Mathie]]''', recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow.<ref name="Marriage1618">“Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618.</ref>

Current profile27The marriage also fits a longer Mathie–Glasgow association. In 1554 David Mathy and [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]] were fellow burgesses witnessing the same sasines.<ref name="Mathie1554">Robert Renwick, ed., Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow, vol. 1, protocols 183–184, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc07robegoog/page/n90/mode/2up 10 May 1554, printed p. 63].</ref> David’s documented son John may be the writer later associated with the Earl of Glencairn. Tutory retours of 1607 name the deceased John Mathie of Ibert’s brother Matthew, a Glasgow burgess, and John’s lawful children James, David, Agnes and Margaret.<ref name="Ibert1607">Inquisitionum ad Capellam Domini Regis Retornatarum ... Abbreviatio, vol. 2, tutory retours 100–101, 20 January 1607, [https://books.google.com/books?id=PiVDAAAAcAAJ digitised volume]; underlying register, National Records of Scotland, [https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/browsetreeview.aspx?reference=C22 C22/3].</ref>

Replacement profile27The marriage also fits a longer Mathie–Glasgow association. In 1554 David Mathy and [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]] were fellow burgesses witnessing the same sasines.<ref name="Mathie1554">Robert Renwick, ed., Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow, vol. 1, protocols 183–184, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc07robegoog/page/n90/mode/2up 10 May 1554, printed p. 63].</ref> David’s documented son John may be the writer later associated with the Earl of Glencairn. Tutory retours of 1607 name the deceased John Mathie of Ibert’s brother Matthew, a Glasgow burgess, and John’s lawful children James, David, Agnes and Margaret.<ref name="Ibert1607">Inquisitionum ad Capellam Domini Regis Retornatarum ... Abbreviatio, vol. 2, tutory retours 100–101, 20 January 1607, [https://books.google.com/books?id=PiVDAAAAcAAJ digitised volume]; underlying register, National Records of Scotland, [https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/browsetreeview.aspx?reference=C22 C22/3].</ref>

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Current profile29Jonet was not among those four children, but she may have belonged to the younger Glencairn writer’s household or been an older daughter outside the tutory proceedings. If John was Robert’s son, their marriage may have renewed the association documented between Robert Glasgow and David Mathy in 1554.

Replacement profile29Jonet was not among those four children, but she may have belonged to the younger Glencairn writer’s household or been an older daughter outside the tutory proceedings. If John was Robert’s son, their marriage may have renewed the association documented between Robert Glasgow and David Mathy in 1554.

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Current profile31The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

Replacement profile31The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

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Current profile33* [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow]], christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will.<ref name="John1619">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei.</ref>

Replacement profile33* [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow]], christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will.<ref name="John1619">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei.</ref>

Current profile34* [[Glasgow-1089|Jonet Glasgow]], christened 26 September 1622.<ref name="Jonet1622">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622.</ref>

Replacement profile34* [[Glasgow-1089|Jonet Glasgow]], christened 26 September 1622.<ref name="Jonet1622">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622.</ref>

Current profile35* [[Glasgow-1090|George Glasgow]], christened 4 February 1627.<ref name="George1627">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627.</ref>

Replacement profile35* [[Glasgow-1090|George Glasgow]], christened 4 February 1627.<ref name="George1627">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627.</ref>

Current profile36* [[Glasgow-1167|Euphame Glasgow]], christened 30 March 1634.<ref name="Euphame1634">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634.</ref> The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

Replacement profile36* [[Glasgow-1167|Euphame Glasgow]], christened 30 March 1634.<ref name="Euphame1634">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634.</ref> The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

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Current profile38The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]], as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

Replacement profile38The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]], as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

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Current profile40This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.

Replacement profile40This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.

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Current profile42== Research Notes ==

Replacement profile42== Research Notes ==

Current profile43=== Birth Estimate ===

Replacement profile43=== Birth Estimate ===

Current profile44

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Current profile45John's only direct birth boundary is that he existed by Ninian's testament of

Replacement profile45John's only direct birth boundary is that he existed by Ninian's testament of

Current profile4610 January 1613. Ninian's description as Robert's second son does not establish

Replacement profile4610 January 1613. Ninian's description as Robert's second son does not establish

Current profile47that this brother John was the elder or first son, particularly because the

Replacement profile47that this brother John was the elder or first son, particularly because the

Current profile48testament does not exclude a maternal half-brother. The structured “before

Replacement profile48testament does not exclude a maternal half-brother. The structured “before

Current profile491572” date is a legacy estimate that is defensible only if John was the adult

Replacement profile491572” date is a legacy estimate that is defensible only if John was the adult

Current profile50fisher already recorded in 1572–73; that identity remains unproved.

Replacement profile50fisher already recorded in 1572–73; that identity remains unproved.

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Current profile52No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

Replacement profile52No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

Current profile53

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Current profile54If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.

Replacement profile54If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.

Current profile55

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Current profile56=== Mother ===

Replacement profile56=== Mother ===

Current profile57

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Current profile58John’s mother has not been identified.

Replacement profile58John’s mother has not been identified.

Current profile59

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Current profile60Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.

Replacement profile60Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.

Current profile61

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Current profile62=== Identity Analysis ===

Replacement profile62=== Identity Analysis ===

Current profile63

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Current profile64The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

Replacement profile64The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

Current profile65

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Current profile66* a brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]]; and

Replacement profile66* a brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]]; and

Current profile67* alive on 10 January 1613.

Replacement profile67* alive on 10 January 1613.

Current profile68

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Current profile69Because Robert was Ninian's proved father, he is the leading father for John if

Replacement profile69Because Robert was Ninian's proved father, he is the leading father for John if

Current profile70The brothers were full or paternal half-brothers. The record does not exclude

Replacement profile70The brothers were full or paternal half-brothers. The record does not exclude

Current profile71a maternal half-brother.

Replacement profile71a maternal half-brother.

Current profile72

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Current profile73The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

Replacement profile73The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

Current profile74

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Current profile75* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;

Replacement profile75* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;

Current profile76* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or

Replacement profile76* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or

Current profile77* another contemporary man of the same name.

Replacement profile77* another contemporary man of the same name.

Current profile78

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Current profile79The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]] witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

Replacement profile79The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]] witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

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Current profile81The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

Replacement profile81The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

Current profile82

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Current profile83The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

Replacement profile83The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

Current profile84

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Current profile85The former placement under [[Glasgow-3522|William Glasgow]] and [[Herbison-439|Margaret Herbesoun]] relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.

Replacement profile85The former placement under [[Glasgow-3522|William Glasgow]] and [[Herbison-439|Margaret Herbesoun]] relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.

Current profile86

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Current profile87=== Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence ===

Replacement profile87=== Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence ===

Current profile88

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Current profile89This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

Replacement profile89This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

Current profile90

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Current profile91* [[Glasgow-1030|John Glasgow]] is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.

Replacement profile91* [[Glasgow-1030|John Glasgow]] is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.

Current profile92* [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow]] is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.

Replacement profile92* [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow]] is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.

Current profile93* [[Glasgow-3181|John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis]] cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because his estate was processed by 4 May 1577. His death month reads March, but the year remains unresolved.

Replacement profile93* [[Glasgow-3181|John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis]] cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because his estate was processed by 4 May 1577. His death month reads March, but the year remains unresolved.

Current profile94

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Current profile95A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.

Replacement profile95A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.

Current profile96

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Current profile97=== Possible Saltcoats identity ===

Replacement profile97=== Possible Saltcoats identity ===

Current profile98

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Current profile99A different record-defined John Glasgow was a sailor in Saltcoats within Ardrossan parish. He died in December 1636, and his testament dative came before Glasgow Commissary Court in April 1637. The proceeding names '''Isobell Gray''' as his widow and calls '''Katherine and Agnes Glasgow''' the lawful children of the deceased, their father. It does not expressly call Isobell their mother.<ref name="Saltcoats1637">National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, testament dative and inventory of John Glasgow, sailor in Saltcoats, NRS CC9/7/27, register pp. 478–480; original register re-read September 2026; locate by reference through the [https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/legal-records/wills Scotland's People wills search].</ref>

Replacement profile99A different record-defined John Glasgow was a sailor in Saltcoats within Ardrossan parish. He died in December 1636, and his testament dative came before Glasgow Commissary Court in April 1637. The proceeding names '''Isobell Gray''' as his widow and calls '''Katherine and Agnes Glasgow''' the lawful children of the deceased, their father. It does not expressly call Isobell their mother.<ref name="Saltcoats1637">National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, testament dative and inventory of John Glasgow, sailor in Saltcoats, NRS CC9/7/27, register pp. 478–480; original register re-read September 2026; locate by reference through the [https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/legal-records/wills Scotland's People wills search].</ref>

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Current profile101This profile is chronologically compatible with the Saltcoats sailor because its subject's death is unknown. No inspected record, however, connects the Glasgow household of Jonet Mathie to Isobell Gray, Saltcoats, the sailor occupation, Katherine or Agnes. Name and chronology do not override those different household identifiers, so this profile is not the present match. The Saltcoats sailor requires a distinct documentary profile; a later occupation, property, residence or explicit family bridge could justify a merge.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

Replacement profile101This profile is chronologically compatible with the Saltcoats sailor because its subject's death is unknown. No inspected record, however, connects the Glasgow household of Jonet Mathie to Isobell Gray, Saltcoats, the sailor occupation, Katherine or Agnes. Name and chronology do not override those different household identifiers, so this profile is not the present match. The Saltcoats sailor requires a distinct documentary profile; a later occupation, property, residence or explicit family bridge could justify a merge.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

Current profile102

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Current profile103John Brown or Browne appears in the estate's financial and legal network, but no kinship is stated. The inventory may mention an old fishing boat and equipment; that manuscript reading remains tentative.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

Replacement profile103John Brown or Browne appears in the estate's financial and legal network, but no kinship is stated. The inventory may mention an old fishing boat and equipment; that manuscript reading remains tentative.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

Current profile104

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Current profile105=== Possible 1643 testament index entry ===

Replacement profile105=== Possible 1643 testament index entry ===

Current profile106

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Current profile107The printed FamilySearch index lists John Glasgow “in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride,” dated 17 April 1643; its full-text transcript renders the place as “Rashlic.” The entry is in ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, Glasgow Commissary Court reference CC9/7/28.<ref name="Rashlie1643">FamilySearch, ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, entry for John Glasgow in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride, 17 April 1643, Glasgow Commissary Court CC9/7/28, [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-D98V?view=fullText&keywords=Glasgow&searchForm=advanced&lang=en&groupId=M97N-2NT index image]. This is an image of the printed index, not the underlying testament.</ref>

Replacement profile107The printed FamilySearch index lists John Glasgow “in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride,” dated 17 April 1643; its full-text transcript renders the place as “Rashlic.” The entry is in ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, Glasgow Commissary Court reference CC9/7/28.<ref name="Rashlie1643">FamilySearch, ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, entry for John Glasgow in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride, 17 April 1643, Glasgow Commissary Court CC9/7/28, [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-D98V?view=fullText&keywords=Glasgow&searchForm=advanced&lang=en&groupId=M97N-2NT index image]. This is an image of the printed index, not the underlying testament.</ref>

Current profile108

Replacement profile108

Current profile109This profile is one possible match: its subject is chronologically compatible and has no established death date. The index gives no age, occupation, relative or other detail linking the Rashlie resident to this profile. [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow of Linlithgow]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Duddingston]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Mid Calder]] and [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow, born in Glasgow in 1619]] also remain possible same-name candidates. Treat this as an unresolved possible match; 17 April 1643 is the indexed testament date, not a proven date of death, and no death date is entered here.

Replacement profile109This profile is one possible match: its subject is chronologically compatible and has no established death date. The index gives no age, occupation, relative or other detail linking the Rashlie resident to this profile. [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow of Linlithgow]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Duddingston]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Mid Calder]] and [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow, born in Glasgow in 1619]] also remain possible same-name candidates. Treat this as an unresolved possible match; 17 April 1643 is the indexed testament date, not a proven date of death, and no death date is entered here.

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Current profile111== Sources ==

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Current profile114* [[Space:John_Glasgow|John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree]]

Replacement profile114* [[Space:John_Glasgow|John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree]]

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== Biography ==
=== Current father assessment — 28 September 2026 ===

The relationship with [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess, is '''confident''' for John, Ninian's documented brother represented by this profile. Ninian's burgess admission on 23 October 1596 names Robert as his father, and Ninian's testament made on 10 January 1613 calls John his brother. The shared surname, compatible chronology and appearance of Ninian's son Robert among the witnesses at the 1619 baptism support the shared-father reconstruction. This is a conclusion from the combined records; the testament itself does not name John's father.<ref name="Ninian" />

The earlier full-versus-half-sibling caveat below is superseded by this assessment: no concrete evidence identifies a different father. The identification of this brother with the man who married Jonet Mathie in 1618 remains probable and is considered separately below. This confidence change does not establish the marriage or other proposed adult identities as certain.

=== Earlier father analysis — superseded ===

This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]] in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the brothers shared a father, John was a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so both the profile identity and the paternal relationship remain uncertain.

The record-defined man's relationship is supported by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records make Robert the leading father for John if the brothers shared a father. The testament does not state whether John was Ninian's full, paternal half- or maternal half-brother, and the phrase “second son” does not identify John's birth order. Neither record proves that this record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile.<ref name="Ninian">James R. Anderson, ed., ''Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750'' (Scottish Record Society, 1925), [https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up p. 24], entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.”</ref>

John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers.<ref name="Protocols">Robert Renwick, ed., ''Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow'', vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up 12 February 1572/73]; vol. 7, protocol 2002, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up 19 December 1573].</ref>

These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.

=== Possible Marriage and Children ===

This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married '''[[Mathie-159|Jonet Mathie]]''', recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow.<ref name="Marriage1618">“Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618.</ref>
The marriage also fits a longer Mathie–Glasgow association. In 1554 David Mathy and [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]] were fellow burgesses witnessing the same sasines.<ref name="Mathie1554">Robert Renwick, ed., Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow, vol. 1, protocols 183–184, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc07robegoog/page/n90/mode/2up 10 May 1554, printed p. 63].</ref> David’s documented son John may be the writer later associated with the Earl of Glencairn. Tutory retours of 1607 name the deceased John Mathie of Ibert’s brother Matthew, a Glasgow burgess, and John’s lawful children James, David, Agnes and Margaret.<ref name="Ibert1607">Inquisitionum ad Capellam Domini Regis Retornatarum ... Abbreviatio, vol. 2, tutory retours 100–101, 20 January 1607, [https://books.google.com/books?id=PiVDAAAAcAAJ digitised volume]; underlying register, National Records of Scotland, [https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/browsetreeview.aspx?reference=C22 C22/3].</ref>

Jonet was not among those four children, but she may have belonged to the younger Glencairn writer’s household or been an older daughter outside the tutory proceedings. If John was Robert’s son, their marriage may have renewed the association documented between Robert Glasgow and David Mathy in 1554.

The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

* [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow]], christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will.<ref name="John1619">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1089|Jonet Glasgow]], christened 26 September 1622.<ref name="Jonet1622">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1090|George Glasgow]], christened 4 February 1627.<ref name="George1627">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1167|Euphame Glasgow]], christened 30 March 1634.<ref name="Euphame1634">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634.</ref> The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]], as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.

== Research Notes ==
=== Birth Estimate ===

John's only direct birth boundary is that he existed by Ninian's testament of
10 January 1613. Ninian's description as Robert's second son does not establish
that this brother John was the elder or first son, particularly because the
testament does not exclude a maternal half-brother. The structured “before
1572” date is a legacy estimate that is defensible only if John was the adult
fisher already recorded in 1572–73; that identity remains unproved.

No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.

=== Mother ===

John’s mother has not been identified.

Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.

=== Identity Analysis ===

The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

* a brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]]; and
* alive on 10 January 1613.

Because Robert was Ninian's proved father, he is the leading father for John if
The brothers were full or paternal half-brothers. The record does not exclude
a maternal half-brother.

The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;
* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or
* another contemporary man of the same name.

The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]] witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

The former placement under [[Glasgow-3522|William Glasgow]] and [[Herbison-439|Margaret Herbesoun]] relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.

=== Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence ===

This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

* [[Glasgow-1030|John Glasgow]] is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.
* [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow]] is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.
* [[Glasgow-3181|John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis]] cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because his estate was processed by 4 May 1577. His death month reads March, but the year remains unresolved.

A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.

=== Possible Saltcoats identity ===

A different record-defined John Glasgow was a sailor in Saltcoats within Ardrossan parish. He died in December 1636, and his testament dative came before Glasgow Commissary Court in April 1637. The proceeding names '''Isobell Gray''' as his widow and calls '''Katherine and Agnes Glasgow''' the lawful children of the deceased, their father. It does not expressly call Isobell their mother.<ref name="Saltcoats1637">National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, testament dative and inventory of John Glasgow, sailor in Saltcoats, NRS CC9/7/27, register pp. 478–480; original register re-read September 2026; locate by reference through the [https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/legal-records/wills Scotland's People wills search].</ref>

This profile is chronologically compatible with the Saltcoats sailor because its subject's death is unknown. No inspected record, however, connects the Glasgow household of Jonet Mathie to Isobell Gray, Saltcoats, the sailor occupation, Katherine or Agnes. Name and chronology do not override those different household identifiers, so this profile is not the present match. The Saltcoats sailor requires a distinct documentary profile; a later occupation, property, residence or explicit family bridge could justify a merge.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

John Brown or Browne appears in the estate's financial and legal network, but no kinship is stated. The inventory may mention an old fishing boat and equipment; that manuscript reading remains tentative.<ref name="Saltcoats1637" />

=== Possible 1643 testament index entry ===

The printed FamilySearch index lists John Glasgow “in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride,” dated 17 April 1643; its full-text transcript renders the place as “Rashlic.” The entry is in ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, Glasgow Commissary Court reference CC9/7/28.<ref name="Rashlie1643">FamilySearch, ''Glasgow. Wills 1547–1800'', item #007960708, image 112, printed index p. 196, entry for John Glasgow in Rashlie, parish of Kilbride, 17 April 1643, Glasgow Commissary Court CC9/7/28, [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-D98V?view=fullText&keywords=Glasgow&searchForm=advanced&lang=en&groupId=M97N-2NT index image]. This is an image of the printed index, not the underlying testament.</ref>

This profile is one possible match: its subject is chronologically compatible and has no established death date. The index gives no age, occupation, relative or other detail linking the Rashlie resident to this profile. [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow of Linlithgow]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Duddingston]], [[Glasgow-1084|John Glasgow of Mid Calder]] and [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow, born in Glasgow in 1619]] also remain possible same-name candidates. Treat this as an unresolved possible match; 17 April 1643 is the indexed testament date, not a proven date of death, and no death date is entered here.

== Sources ==
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* [[Space:John_Glasgow|John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree]]

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