John Glasgow

Biography
This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of Ninian Glasgow in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the match is correct, John was a son of Robert Glasgow, fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so the identity remains uncertain.

The record-defined man's relationship is established by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records establish that Robert Glasgow had another son named John and suggest that John was the elder or first son; they do not prove that the record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile. James R. Anderson, ed., Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750 (Scottish Record Society, 1925), p. 24 (https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up), entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” 

John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers. Robert Renwick, ed., Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow, vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, 12 February 1572/73 (https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up); vol. 7, protocol 2002, 19 December 1573 (https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up). 

These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.
Possible Marriage and Children
This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie, recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow. “Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618. 

The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

* John Glasgow, christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will. “Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei. 
* Jonet Glasgow, christened 26 September 1622. “Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622. 
* George Glasgow, christened 4 February 1627. “Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627. 
* Euphame Glasgow, christened 30 March 1634. “Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634. The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, Robert Glasgow, as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.
Research NotesBirth Estimate
John was born before Ninian’s burgess admission on 23 October 1596. Because Ninian was described as Robert’s second son, John was probably the elder son. If the attached father identification is correct, John must also have been born before Robert’s reported death in 1572; the structured “before 1572” date is a conditional outer boundary, not a recorded birth year.

No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.
Mother
John’s mother has not been identified.

Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.
Identity Analysis
The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

* a son of Robert Glasgow, fisher and burgess;
* a brother of Ninian Glasgow; and
* alive on 10 January 1613.

The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;
* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or
* another contemporary man of the same name.

The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son Robert Glasgow witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

The former placement under William Glasgow and Margaret Herbesoun relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.
Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence
This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

* John Glasgow is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.
* John Glasgow is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.
* John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because he died in November 1576.

A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.
Sources
* John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree

{{One Name Study|name=Glasgow}}

== Biography ==

This profile is the best existing-profile match for the otherwise unidentified John Glasgow named as brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]] in Ninian's 1613 testament. If the match is correct, John was a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess of Glasgow. The 1618 husband is not identified by occupation, father or inherited property, so the identity remains uncertain.

The record-defined man's relationship is established by two records. Ninian was admitted burgess and guild brother of Glasgow on 23 October 1596 as the “second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess.” In his testament, made at Glasgow on 10 January 1613, Ninian left “Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.” Taken together, these records establish that Robert Glasgow had another son named John and suggest that John was the elder or first son; they do not prove that the record-defined John was the 1618 husband represented by this profile.<ref name="Ninian">James R. Anderson, ed., ''Burgesses & Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750'' (Scottish Record Society, 1925), [https://archive.org/details/scottishrecordso43scotuoft/page/24/mode/2up p. 24], entry dated 23 October 1596: “Glasgow, Ninian, B. and F., as second son to Robert G., fisher, burgess”; National Records of Scotland, Glasgow Commissary Court, CC9/7/9, images 142–145, testament testamentar and inventory of Ninian Glasgow, made 10 January 1613 and confirmed 8 May 1613: “Item to Johne glasgw his brother ane new gowne.”</ref>

John was alive when Ninian made his testament on 10 January 1613. The records establishing the relationship do not state John’s age, occupation, residence, wife or children.

A John Glasgow, fisher, appears in Robert Glasgow’s immediate property and occupational network during 1572 and 1573. On 12 February 1572/73, Robert Glasgow and Margaret Rowand dealt with a tenement adjoining land belonging to John Glasgow, who also witnessed the transaction. On 19 December 1573, Robert and John witnessed another transaction and were described collectively as fishers.<ref name="Protocols">Robert Renwick, ed., ''Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow'', vol. 6, protocols 1903–1904, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc01renwgoog/page/n121/mode/2up 12 February 1572/73]; vol. 7, protocol 2002, [https://archive.org/details/abstractsprotoc00robegoog/page/n52/mode/2up 19 December 1573].</ref>

These protocols provide strong evidence of a close property and occupational association between Robert and the John described as a fisher. They do not, however, identify John as Robert’s son. As more than one adult John Glasgow was active in the burgh, the fisher remains an identity candidate rather than a proved identification.

John’s date and place of death are unknown. He died after 10 January 1613.

=== Possible Marriage and Children ===

This John is the leading identity candidate for the John Glasgow who married '''[[Mathie-159|Jonet Mathie]]''', recorded as Jonat Mathen, on 25 January 1618 in Glasgow.<ref name="Marriage1618">“Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWK-WMQ : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow, 1618.</ref>

The couple had the following children christened in the High Church of Glasgow:

* [[Glasgow-1088|John Glasgow]], christened 13 May 1619. The witnesses included George Glasgow, Robert Glasgow and Mathew Will.<ref name="John1619">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-12T : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for Johne Glasgow, 1619. Mother recorded as Jonat Mathei.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1089|Jonet Glasgow]], christened 26 September 1622.<ref name="Jonet1622">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHV-375 : 11 February 2020), Johne Glasgow in entry for Jonet Glasgow, 1622.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1090|George Glasgow]], christened 4 February 1627.<ref name="George1627">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHK-3WB : 16 September 2021), Johne Glasgow in entry for George Glasgow, 1627.</ref>
* [[Glasgow-1167|Euphame Glasgow]], christened 30 March 1634.<ref name="Euphame1634">“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950”, database, ''FamilySearch'' (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1Y9-V87 : 16 September 2021), Johnne Glasgow in entry for Euphame Glasgow, 1634.</ref> The cited Edinburgh index is also used for Euphame's proposed placement in the otherwise coherent family of Rev. John Glassford and Jonet Morriel. It cannot support both fathers, so her identification here remains uncertain pending examination of the original image.

The proposed identification is supported by the appearance of Ninian’s proved son, [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]], as a witness at the 1619 baptism. If the father was Ninian’s brother John, Robert would have been witnessing the baptism of his cousin.

This is a plausible and ordinary family relationship, but it is not conclusive. Neither the 1618 marriage entry nor the children’s baptismal entries state John’s occupation, property holdings or father.

== Research Notes ==

=== Birth Estimate ===

John was born before Ninian’s burgess admission on 23 October 1596. Because Ninian was described as Robert’s second son, John was probably the elder son. If the attached father identification is correct, John must also have been born before Robert’s reported death in 1572; the structured “before 1572” date is a conditional outer boundary, not a recorded birth year.

No record currently establishes John’s date or place of birth. Glasgow is probable because Robert was a burgess there and the known records concern the Glasgow burgh, but the place remains uncertain.

If the John Glasgow described as a fisher in the 1572–73 protocols was Robert’s son, John was already an adult by that period and was probably born no later than the early 1550s. That identification has not yet been proved and should not be used to assign a precise birth date.

=== Mother ===

John’s mother has not been identified.

Robert Glasgow’s documented spouse Margaret Rowand is a possible mother, but no located record explicitly identifies her as John’s mother. She should therefore not be attached as his mother without further evidence.

=== Identity Analysis ===

The evidence establishes the existence of a John Glasgow who was:

* a son of [[Glasgow-1096|Robert Glasgow]], fisher and burgess;
* a brother of [[Glasgow-3188|Ninian Glasgow]]; and
* alive on 10 January 1613.

The evidence does not directly establish whether this John was:

* the fisher associated with Robert Glasgow in 1572–73;
* the John Glasgow who married Jonet Mathie in 1618; or
* another contemporary man of the same name.

The strongest candidate is the John who married Jonet Mathie. Ninian’s son [[Glasgow-1027|Robert Glasgow]] witnessed the baptism of that John’s son in 1619. This would be consistent with Robert acting as witness for the child of his uncle.

The other Glasgow witness at the 1619 baptism was George Glasgow. George was a proved son of a different William Glasgow. The two witnesses therefore cannot both be used as evidence that George, Robert and the child’s father John were brothers, as previously proposed.

The baptismal witnesses support a broader kinship network, but witness status alone does not define the precise relationship.

The former placement under [[Glasgow-3522|William Glasgow]] and [[Herbison-439|Margaret Herbesoun]] relied on treating George and Robert, the 1619 witnesses, as John's brothers. Direct records show that George was William's son while Robert was Ninian's son. That parent pair is not currently attached and should not be restored as proved; it remains only an uncertain former hypothesis.

=== Profiles Not to Merge Without Further Evidence ===

This record-defined John should not be merged with another John Glasgow solely on chronology or name similarity.

* [[Glasgow-1030|John Glasgow]] is the leading identity candidate, but the identification remains unproved unless this is already that profile.
* [[Glasgow-1561|John Glasgow]] is also chronologically possible but lacks a direct identity bridge.
* [[Glasgow-3181|John Glasgow of Hirmanscheillis]] cannot be Ninian’s brother named in the 1613 testament because he died in November 1576.

A further record linking John to an occupation, property, spouse, child or explicit patronymic is needed to resolve the identity securely.

== Sources == 
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* [[Space:John_Glasgow|John Glasgow Research Page on WikiTree]]