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Gortereghy Elder Households 1911

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Joseph Elder

HOLD — no compatible profile established — No supported existing Joseph profile was identified for the Gortereghy man aged 79 in 1911. Elder-3002 has a nearby birth year of 1831 but documents an Alabama marriage in 1852, Civil War service and burial in Clay County in 1913, without an Irish household chain. Elder-741 is an undated, unlocated import retained only as a name-only lead. Robert Elder-7144's biography mentions brother Joseph leasing Gortereghy land in 1864, an important compatible earlier record without a Joseph profile ID.

Record fields: Name Joseph Elder; birthplace County Antrim, directly reported in the inspected census. Birth date remains unknown unless explicitly stated in the record facts below. No supported existing Joseph profile was identified for the Gortereghy man aged 79 in 1911. Elder-3002 has a nearby birth year of 1831 but documents an Alabama marriage in 1852, Civil War service and burial in Clay County in 1913, without an Irish household chain. Elder-741 is an undated, unlocated import retained only as a name-only lead. Robert Elder-7144's biography mentions brother Joseph leasing Gortereghy land in 1864, an important compatible earlier record without a Joseph profile ID.

The same 1911 Gortereghy browse lists two further Elder households not currently represented in the catalogue: Joseph Elder, aged 79, with Ellen Elder, aged 38, recorded as his niece, and William Elder, aged 40, with Elizabeth Elder, aged 50, recorded as his sister. This demonstrates that Gortereghy contained several distinct Elder households at the same time. 1911 Gortereghy, Joseph Elder household 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household

Matches by record

new-17sep-6fc146926262 — No supported existing Joseph profile was identified for the Gortereghy man aged 79 in 1911. Elder-3002 has a nearby birth year of 1831 but documents an Alabama marriage in 1852, Civil War service and burial in Clay County in 1913, without an Irish household chain. Elder-741 is an undated, unlocated import retained only as a name-only lead. Robert Elder-7144's biography mentions brother Joseph leasing Gortereghy land in 1864, an important compatible earlier record without a Joseph profile ID.

Duplicate check and relationship limits

Public existing-profile search and biography review completed 2026-09-30. Missing fields or an unproved extra bridge do not exclude a compatible person.
Further source and existing-profile review completed 2026-09-30; retain compatible candidates unless a concrete conflict excludes them.

Next identity test: Inspect the named original record and compare dated family evidence; retained candidates remain unproved.

Complete sourced WikiTree draft

== Biography ==

The same 1911 Gortereghy browse lists two further Elder households not currently represented in the catalogue: Joseph Elder, aged 79, with Ellen Elder, aged 38, recorded as his niece, and William Elder, aged 40, with Elizabeth Elder, aged 50, recorded as his sister. This demonstrates that Gortereghy contained several distinct Elder households at the same time.<ref>1911 Gortereghy, Joseph Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390154.pdf; Form A; official index/printed house 36; rows 1–2; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Original register or Form A inspected on 30 September 2026; source-specific image and entry references supplied. Profile identities and cross-record continuity remain qualified where stated.</ref>

== Research Notes ==

No supported existing Joseph profile was identified for the Gortereghy man aged 79 in 1911. Elder-3002 has a nearby birth year of 1831 but documents an Alabama marriage in 1852, Civil War service and burial in Clay County in 1913, without an Irish household chain. Elder-741 is an undated, unlocated import retained only as a name-only lead. Robert Elder-7144's biography mentions brother Joseph leasing Gortereghy land in 1864, an important compatible earlier record without a Joseph profile ID.

Possible profile identities: none established within the recorded searches.

Next research: Inspect the named original record and compare dated family evidence; retained candidates remain unproved.

== Sources ==

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Ellen Elder

HOLD — no compatible profile established — No supported separate Ellen profile was identified for Joseph's niece aged 38 in 1911. Local Elder-7143 represents Ellen Jane (1823–1879), rather than this younger woman. Global near-age Elder-6578 belongs to a Utah family as a daughter of Claybourne and Mary Pratt, with a different family and locality.

Record fields: Name Ellen Elder; birthplace County Antrim, directly reported in the inspected census. Birth date remains unknown unless explicitly stated in the record facts below. No supported separate Ellen profile was identified for Joseph's niece aged 38 in 1911. Local Elder-7143 represents Ellen Jane (1823–1879), rather than this younger woman. Global near-age Elder-6578 belongs to a Utah family as a daughter of Claybourne and Mary Pratt, with a different family and locality.

Matches by record

new-17sep-6fc146926262 — No supported separate Ellen profile was identified for Joseph's niece aged 38 in 1911. Local Elder-7143 represents Ellen Jane (1823–1879), rather than this younger woman. Global near-age Elder-6578 belongs to a Utah family as a daughter of Claybourne and Mary Pratt, with a different family and locality.

Duplicate check and relationship limits

Public existing-profile search and biography review completed 2026-09-30. Missing fields or an unproved extra bridge do not exclude a compatible person.
Born in 1823 and died in 1879; cannot be the 38-year-old niece in 1911.
Further source and existing-profile review completed 2026-09-30; retain compatible candidates unless a concrete conflict excludes them.

Next identity test: Inspect the named original record and compare dated family evidence; retained candidates remain unproved.

Complete sourced WikiTree draft

== Biography ==

The same 1911 Gortereghy browse lists two further Elder households not currently represented in the catalogue: Joseph Elder, aged 79, with Ellen Elder, aged 38, recorded as his niece, and William Elder, aged 40, with Elizabeth Elder, aged 50, recorded as his sister. This demonstrates that Gortereghy contained several distinct Elder households at the same time.<ref>1911 Gortereghy, Joseph Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390154.pdf; Form A; official index/printed house 36; rows 1–2; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Original register or Form A inspected on 30 September 2026; source-specific image and entry references supplied. Profile identities and cross-record continuity remain qualified where stated.</ref>

== Research Notes ==

No supported separate Ellen profile was identified for Joseph's niece aged 38 in 1911. Local Elder-7143 represents Ellen Jane (1823–1879), rather than this younger woman. Global near-age Elder-6578 belongs to a Utah family as a daughter of Claybourne and Mary Pratt, with a different family and locality.

Possible profile identities: none established within the recorded searches.

Next research: Inspect the named original record and compare dated family evidence; retained candidates remain unproved.

== Sources ==

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William Elder

HOLD — compatible profile linked — The original 1911 return proves William, 40, and Elizabeth, 50, a sibling pair. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together. The original 1901 James/Mary household records William as 23 and Lizzie as 25. These substantial age differences are visible in the originals and must not be forced into agreement. James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane remain qualified parent identities for the 1901 children; continuity with the 1911 pair remains uncertain.

Record fields: Name William Elder; birthplace County Antrim, directly reported in the inspected census. Birth date remains unknown unless explicitly stated in the record facts below. The original 1911 return proves William, 40, and Elizabeth, 50, a sibling pair. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together. The original 1901 James/Mary household records William as 23 and Lizzie as 25. These substantial age differences are visible in the originals and must not be forced into agreement. James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane remain qualified parent identities for the 1901 children; continuity with the 1911 pair remains uncertain.

The original 1901 return names James Elder 80, wife Mary 73, daughter Lizzie 25 and son William 23. William and Elizabeth are a proved sibling pair in 1911, aged 40 and 50. These are substantial original-record age conflicts, not index errors. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together, while identifying the 1901 children with the 1911 pair and attaching the latter to Elder-3946 remains uncertain. 1901 Gortereghy, James Elder household 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household

Compatible WikiTree candidates

Elder-3951 — Current public profile compared; William Elder-3951, born 9 November 1869, son of James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane McAughin, is age-compatible with the 1911 head William aged 40. His father's family lived at Gortereghy and his sister Elizabeth Elder-3950 was born on 3 September 1860, matching the 1911 sister aged 50. This combined family match makes Elder-3951 a strong compatible candidate despite alternative birth estimates of about 1868 or 1869 in the biography. The original 1911 form has not been inspected. Profile birth 1869-11-09, death 1950-10-21; qualifiers retained in the review.

Matches by record

new-17sep-6fc146926262 — The original 1911 return proves William, 40, and Elizabeth, 50, a sibling pair. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together. The original 1901 James/Mary household records William as 23 and Lizzie as 25. These substantial age differences are visible in the originals and must not be forced into agreement. James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane remain qualified parent identities for the 1901 children; continuity with the 1911 pair remains uncertain. Elder-3951
irish-gortereghy-james-elder-family-age-conflict-1901 — The original 1911 return proves William, 40, and Elizabeth, 50, a sibling pair. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together. The original 1901 James/Mary household records William as 23 and Lizzie as 25. These substantial age differences are visible in the originals and must not be forced into agreement. James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane remain qualified parent identities for the 1901 children; continuity with the 1911 pair remains uncertain. Elder-3951

Duplicate check and relationship limits

Public existing-profile search and biography review completed 2026-09-30. Missing fields or an unproved extra bridge do not exclude a compatible person.
Further source and existing-profile review completed 2026-09-30; retain compatible candidates unless a concrete conflict excludes them.

Next identity test: Inspect original births, family Bible entries and death/probate records to resolve the 1901/1911 age conflicts.

Complete sourced WikiTree draft

== Biography ==

The same 1911 Gortereghy browse lists two further Elder households not currently represented in the catalogue: Joseph Elder, aged 79, with Ellen Elder, aged 38, recorded as his niece, and William Elder, aged 40, with Elizabeth Elder, aged 50, recorded as his sister. This demonstrates that Gortereghy contained several distinct Elder households at the same time.<ref>1911 Gortereghy, Joseph Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390154.pdf; Form A; official index/printed house 36; rows 1–2; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Original register or Form A inspected on 30 September 2026; source-specific image and entry references supplied. Profile identities and cross-record continuity remain qualified where stated.</ref>

The original 1901 return names James Elder 80, wife Mary 73, daughter Lizzie 25 and son William 23. William and Elizabeth are a proved sibling pair in 1911, aged 40 and 50. These are substantial original-record age conflicts, not index errors. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together, while identifying the 1901 children with the 1911 pair and attaching the latter to Elder-3946 remains uncertain.<ref>1901 Gortereghy, James Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai000298444.pdf; Form A; official index house 21; rows 1–4; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Inspected original record; profile identity remains qualified where stated.</ref>

== Research Notes ==

The original 1911 return proves William, 40, and Elizabeth, 50, a sibling pair. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together. The original 1901 James/Mary household records William as 23 and Lizzie as 25. These substantial age differences are visible in the originals and must not be forced into agreement. James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane remain qualified parent identities for the 1901 children; continuity with the 1911 pair remains uncertain.

Possible profile identities: [[Elder-3951]].

Next research: Inspect original births, family Bible entries and death/probate records to resolve the 1901/1911 age conflicts.

== Sources ==

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Elizabeth Elder

HOLD — compatible profile linked — The original 1911 return proves Elizabeth, 50, sister of William, 40. Elder-3950 and Elder-3951 remain compatible together. Original 1901 Lizzie is 25, daughter of James, 80, and Mary, 73; William is 23. These are substantial original-record age conflicts. Retain the shared parent hypothesis at its uncertainty; do not attach the 1911 pair certainly to James Elder-3946 through these records alone.

Record fields: Name Elizabeth Elder; birthplace County Antrim, directly reported in the inspected census. Birth date remains unknown unless explicitly stated in the record facts below. The original 1911 return proves Elizabeth, 50, sister of William, 40. Elder-3950 and Elder-3951 remain compatible together. Original 1901 Lizzie is 25, daughter of James, 80, and Mary, 73; William is 23. These are substantial original-record age conflicts. Retain the shared parent hypothesis at its uncertainty; do not attach the 1911 pair certainly to James Elder-3946 through these records alone.

Compatible WikiTree candidates

Elder-3950 — Current public profile compared; Elizabeth Elder-3950, born 3 September 1860, daughter of James Elder-3946 and Mary Jane McAughin, has a brother William Elder-3951 born in 1869 and family at Gortereghy. The pair fits Elizabeth aged 50 as sister of William aged 40 in 1911. Common relatives and locality support a strong candidate; the derivative census account alone does not prove it. Profile birth 1860-09-03, death 0000-00-00; qualifiers retained in the review.

Matches by record

new-17sep-6fc146926262 — The original 1911 return proves Elizabeth, 50, sister of William, 40. Elder-3950 and Elder-3951 remain compatible together. Original 1901 Lizzie is 25, daughter of James, 80, and Mary, 73; William is 23. These are substantial original-record age conflicts. Retain the shared parent hypothesis at its uncertainty; do not attach the 1911 pair certainly to James Elder-3946 through these records alone. Elder-3950
irish-gortereghy-james-elder-family-age-conflict-1901 — The original 1911 return proves Elizabeth, 50, sister of William, 40. Elder-3950 and Elder-3951 remain compatible together. Original 1901 Lizzie is 25, daughter of James, 80, and Mary, 73; William is 23. These are substantial original-record age conflicts. Retain the shared parent hypothesis at its uncertainty; do not attach the 1911 pair certainly to James Elder-3946 through these records alone. Elder-3950

Duplicate check and relationship limits

Public existing-profile search and biography review completed 2026-09-30. Missing fields or an unproved extra bridge do not exclude a compatible person.
Born in 1819 and died on 12 September 1899; cannot be the 50-year-old sister in 1911.
Further source and existing-profile review completed 2026-09-30; retain compatible candidates unless a concrete conflict excludes them.

Next identity test: Inspect original births and family Bible entries, preserving the conflicting original ages until resolved.

Complete sourced WikiTree draft

== Biography ==

The same 1911 Gortereghy browse lists two further Elder households not currently represented in the catalogue: Joseph Elder, aged 79, with Ellen Elder, aged 38, recorded as his niece, and William Elder, aged 40, with Elizabeth Elder, aged 50, recorded as his sister. This demonstrates that Gortereghy contained several distinct Elder households at the same time.<ref>1911 Gortereghy, Joseph Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390154.pdf; Form A; official index/printed house 36; rows 1–2; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Original register or Form A inspected on 30 September 2026; source-specific image and entry references supplied. Profile identities and cross-record continuity remain qualified where stated.</ref>

The original 1901 return names James Elder 80, wife Mary 73, daughter Lizzie 25 and son William 23. William and Elizabeth are a proved sibling pair in 1911, aged 40 and 50. These are substantial original-record age conflicts, not index errors. Elder-3951 and Elder-3950 remain compatible together, while identifying the 1901 children with the 1911 pair and attaching the latter to Elder-3946 remains uncertain.<ref>1901 Gortereghy, James Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai000298444.pdf; Form A; official index house 21; rows 1–4; 1911 Gortereghy, William Elder household; https://api-census.nationalarchives.ie/census/image/nai001390136.pdf; Form A; official index house 27; rows 1–2. Inspected original record; profile identity remains qualified where stated.</ref>

== Research Notes ==

The original 1911 return proves Elizabeth, 50, sister of William, 40. Elder-3950 and Elder-3951 remain compatible together. Original 1901 Lizzie is 25, daughter of James, 80, and Mary, 73; William is 23. These are substantial original-record age conflicts. Retain the shared parent hypothesis at its uncertainty; do not attach the 1911 pair certainly to James Elder-3946 through these records alone.

Possible profile identities: [[Elder-3950]].

Next research: Inspect original births and family Bible entries, preserving the conflicting original ages until resolved.

== Sources ==

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