John / Jo Glascho

Biography
John Glasgow, recorded as Jo Glascho, was a taxed householder at Kilwaughter Demesne in Kilwaughter parish, upper Glenarm barony, County Antrim, in the 1669 Hearth Money Roll. Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, 1669 County Antrim Hearth Money Roll, T/307/A; W. Macafee, transcription (https://www.billmacafee.com/1660shearthmoneyrolls/1669hearthmoneyrollsantrim.pdf), records 5347–5348, PDF p. 36. 

He is probably the same man who appears repeatedly in the Larne and Kilwaughter Presbyterian congregational records about 1699–1700/1 as John Glasgow, senior, representing Kilwaughter. If this identification is correct, his documented career extended for more than thirty years.

The designation senior is genealogically significant: it strongly suggests that another, younger John Glasgow was then known within the local community. That younger man's identity and relationship remain unknown.
Kilwaughter in 1669
The 1669 Hearth Money Roll records:

:Jo. Glascho
:James Glascho

as immediately consecutive householders at Kilwaughter Demesne. 

The abbreviation Jo. most probably represents John. The exact co-location and uncommon surname make a close relationship between John and James Glasgow probable, although the tax roll gives no ages, household members or relationship.
John Glasgow senior, c. 1699–1700
Classon Porter later published substantial extracts from an early record of the Larne and Kilwaughter congregation. Porter stated that he had been unable to locate the original in his day and was working from a transcript made or procured for Rev. D. Davison, portions of which had already been published in 1826. Porter arranged his quotations by subject rather than strict chronology. Classon Porter, "Congregational Memoirs—Larne and Kilwaughter," The Christian Unitarian, vol. 2 (1863–1864), pp. 410–415; Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/christianunitari0002unse). Porter describes the provenance of the transcript on p. 410. 

On 3 March 1699/1700 the congregational record appointed four men to approach the Presbytery concerning Rev. William Ogilvie. One was:

 "John Glasgow, sen." 

Porter immediately reproduced the Presbytery's minute for the same deputation. It names the same four men — Samuel Smealley, William Hare, John Glasgow and James Callwell — but calls him simply John Glasgow. 

This is useful identity evidence. Senior was a contextual qualifier; the same man could be recorded without it in another record of the same transaction.

On 17 May, John again appears as:

 "John Glasgow, sen., for Kilwochter" 

He and Patrick Agnew bound for Kilwaughter's £8 share of the minister's stipend, together with obligations for firing, ploughing and harrowing. 

John was also among the heads of families entrusted with considering the rebuilding of the meeting house. These entries establish that he was a substantial member of the Kilwaughter congregation and a representative of its householders. They do not establish that he held the office of elder.

The following year's material again records plain John Glasgow acting for Kilwaughter. On 27 February 1700 in the record's dating, John Glasgow and Robert White were chosen for Kilwaughter to inspect the minister's land. In the same meeting, Patrick Agnew and John Glasgow were selected for Kilwaughter to consider repairs to the minister's house. Classon Porter, "Congregational Memoirs—Larne and Kilwaughter," The Christian Unitarian, vol. 3 (1864), pp. 15–18; Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/christianunitari0003unse). 

The date falls in the period conventionally written 1700/1 when double-dating pre-1752 records.

The recurrence of:

* the same uncommon name;
* the same Kilwaughter locality;
* John being explicitly styled senior;
* plain John being paired again with Patrick Agnew;
* and James Glasgow also appearing in Kilwaughter affairs about 1700;

makes it more probable that the congregational John was the same man as Jo Glascho, householder at Kilwaughter in 1669, rather than an undocumented son of that man. 

The identification remains inferential because no surviving entry explicitly says that the 1669 and c.1700 men were identical.
Family
James Glasgow was recorded immediately beside John at Kilwaughter in 1669. About 1700 a James Glasgow was appointed overseer for Kilwaughter during work on the minister's house. 

The repeated John-and-James presence in the same small district strengthens the case that they belonged to one close family cluster. Their exact relationship remains unknown.

John is currently placed as an uncertain son of Robert Glasgow, the Robert Glaskow associated with Larne during the period of the 1641 rebellion. Trinity College Dublin, MS 838, fol. 153r, examination of Con O'Sheale, 21 April 1653, identifier 838153r210; Robert is described as "one Robert Glaskow liuing in Larne"; 1641 Depositions Project transcription (https://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/42821.html). 

That parentage remains a reconstruction from chronology, locality and surname continuity. No record names Robert as John's father.

John's wife is unknown.
Research NotesThe younger John implied by "senior"
The repeated designation John Glasgow, sen. strongly suggests that another, younger John Glasgow was known to the congregation by about 1700.

The same group of congregational extracts uses other age qualifiers, including Robert Mea, jun. and John Kerr, sen., showing that such distinctions were actively used in the source. 

No located published extract explicitly names a John Glasgow junior, however, and senior does not itself prove a father-son relationship. The younger namesake could have been:

* John's son;
* a nephew;
* a cousin;
* another younger member of the same Glasgow cluster.

A son is a plausible hypothesis, but not yet a relationship suitable for attachment without further evidence.

The important distinction is therefore:

:Probable: Jo Glascho of Kilwaughter in 1669 = John Glasgow senior of Kilwaughter c.1700.
:Possible: the younger John implied by senior was his son.
:Unknown: the younger John's identity and later history.

No reliable WikiTree profile has yet been identified for this younger namesake.
Could the c.1700 senior have been a son of the 1669 John?
It is chronologically possible but presently less likely.

A male householder in 1669 could readily still have been active about 1700. Even if John had been only about twenty-one in 1669, he would have been about fifty-two by 1700 — entirely compatible with being the established senior John, a head of family and congregational bondsman.

Making the c.1700 senior a son instead requires an additional same-name generation for which no record has yet been found. It would also require some other younger John to explain why that second-generation John was himself called senior.

The simpler reconstruction fits all presently located evidence without adding an undocumented generation.

Current assessment: same person probable; father-son replacement possible but unsupported.
Parentage and Scottish hypothesis
The current uncertain father hypothesis should distinguish two separate questions.

Robert Glasgow is the Robert Glaskow associated with Larne in the 1653 examination. He is a plausible earlier member of the Larne–Kilwaughter Glasgow family and is currently attached as John's uncertain father.

A separate Robert Glasgow was recorded in Glasgow, Scotland, in 1618. That Scottish Robert has been proposed as identical with the Larne Robert, but no documentary migration or identity bridge has been found.

The two hypotheses should not be collapsed:

* Robert of Larne → John of Kilwaughter: possible; unproved.
* Scottish Robert → Robert of Larne: possible identity; unproved.

John's mother remains unknown.
Record survival
Porter's nineteenth-century publication is derivative: he stated that the original early congregational record could not then be found and that he was using a transcript. 

There is now a more concrete archival route. Modern scholarship identifies surviving Larne and Kilwaughter session material for 1699–1701 and 1720–1769 and cites PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B. Robert Whan, The Presbyterians of Ulster, 1680–1730 (Boydell Press, 2013), introduction and bibliography, identifying Larne and Kilwaughter session records for 1699–1701 and 1720–1769 and citing PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B; Cambridge bibliography (https://resolve.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/C038A358FF15C0285190286F12E951A4/9781782041894bib_p202-230_CBO.pdf/bibliography.pdf). 

The early section should be inspected directly to determine its precise relationship to the transcript used by Porter and, more importantly, whether entries omitted from his topical extracts identify the younger John Glasgow.
Suggested structured data
* First name: John
* Last name at birth: Glasgow
* Recorded spelling: Glascho
* Birth: before 1651, place unknown, uncertain
* Death: after about 1700, place unknown, uncertain, if the 1669 and c.1700 records are accepted as the same man
* Residence: Kilwaughter Demesne, County Antrim, 1669
* Later residence/association: Kilwaughter, c.1699–1700/1, probable same person
* Father: Robert Glasgow, uncertain
* Mother: unknown
* Relationship to James Glasgow: probable close relative; exact relationship unknown
* Spouse: unknown
* Children: none proved
* Possible child: an unidentified younger John Glasgow implied by the designation John Glasgow, sen.
Priority Research
* PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B — Larne and Kilwaughter session book, 1699–1701 and 1720–1769.
** Inspect the complete early section rather than Porter's selected extracts.
** Search every occurrence of Glasgow, Glasgo, Glascho, John, sen., jun., younger and elder.
** Concentrate on the entries surrounding 3 March 1699/1700, 17 May and 27 February 1700/1.
** Determine whether the implied younger John is named, and whether any relationship to John senior is stated.

* Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland — Antrim Presbytery minutes, 1697–1713.
** Inspect the original minute for the Larne deputation of 3 March 1699/1700 and subsequent Larne/Kilwaughter business.
** Porter quotes the Presbytery minute as naming plain "John Glasgow"; surrounding entries may contain a qualifier, residence or relationship omitted from the published extract.

* PRONI D282 and NRS GD154/505–534 — Kilwaughter estate material, approximately 1665–1710.
** Search for John Glasgow, Jo Glascho and variants, explicitly watching for simultaneous senior and junior tenants.
** Trace any holding occupied by John from the 1669 hearth roll into the early eighteenth century.
** A lease, renewal or succession entry naming a son, heir, widow or former tenant could distinguish the same-man and father-son hypotheses.

* PRONI T/808/14889 — 1666 County Antrim subsidy roll.
** Search John/Jo, James and Robert Glasgow under Glasgow, Glasgo, Glascho, Glaskow and Glascow.
** An earlier appearance of John in the same Kilwaughter tenancy cluster would further strengthen continuity into 1669 and c.1700.
Sources

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== Biography ==

'''John Glasgow''', recorded as '''Jo Glascho''', was a taxed householder at Kilwaughter Demesne in Kilwaughter parish, upper Glenarm barony, County Antrim, in the 1669 Hearth Money Roll.<ref name="Hearth1669">Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, 1669 County Antrim Hearth Money Roll, T/307/A; W. Macafee, [https://www.billmacafee.com/1660shearthmoneyrolls/1669hearthmoneyrollsantrim.pdf transcription], records 5347–5348, PDF p. 36.</ref>

He is probably the same man who appears repeatedly in the Larne and Kilwaughter Presbyterian congregational records about 1699–1700/1 as '''John Glasgow, senior''', representing Kilwaughter. If this identification is correct, his documented career extended for more than thirty years.

The designation ''senior'' is genealogically significant: it strongly suggests that another, younger John Glasgow was then known within the local community. That younger man's identity and relationship remain unknown.

=== Kilwaughter in 1669 ===

The 1669 Hearth Money Roll records:

:'''Jo. Glascho'''
:'''James Glascho'''

as immediately consecutive householders at Kilwaughter Demesne.<ref name="Hearth1669" />

The abbreviation ''Jo.'' most probably represents John. The exact co-location and uncommon surname make a close relationship between John and [[Glasgow-1081|James Glasgow]] probable, although the tax roll gives no ages, household members or relationship.

=== John Glasgow senior, c. 1699–1700 ===

Classon Porter later published substantial extracts from an early record of the Larne and Kilwaughter congregation. Porter stated that he had been unable to locate the original in his day and was working from a transcript made or procured for Rev. D. Davison, portions of which had already been published in 1826. Porter arranged his quotations by subject rather than strict chronology.<ref name="Porter2">Classon Porter, "Congregational Memoirs—Larne and Kilwaughter," ''The Christian Unitarian'', vol. 2 (1863–1864), pp. 410–415; [https://archive.org/details/christianunitari0002unse Internet Archive]. Porter describes the provenance of the transcript on p. 410.</ref>

On 3 March 1699/1700 the congregational record appointed four men to approach the Presbytery concerning Rev. William Ogilvie. One was:

<blockquote>"John Glasgow, sen."</blockquote><ref name="Porter2" />

Porter immediately reproduced the Presbytery's minute for the same deputation. It names the same four men — Samuel Smealley, William Hare, John Glasgow and James Callwell — but calls him simply '''John Glasgow'''.<ref name="Porter2" />

This is useful identity evidence. ''Senior'' was a contextual qualifier; the same man could be recorded without it in another record of the same transaction.

On 17 May, John again appears as:

<blockquote>"John Glasgow, sen., for Kilwochter"</blockquote>

He and Patrick Agnew bound for Kilwaughter's £8 share of the minister's stipend, together with obligations for firing, ploughing and harrowing.<ref name="Porter2" />

John was also among the heads of families entrusted with considering the rebuilding of the meeting house.<ref name="Porter2" /> These entries establish that he was a substantial member of the Kilwaughter congregation and a representative of its householders. They do not establish that he held the office of elder.

The following year's material again records plain '''John Glasgow''' acting for Kilwaughter. On 27 February 1700 in the record's dating, John Glasgow and Robert White were chosen for Kilwaughter to inspect the minister's land. In the same meeting, Patrick Agnew and John Glasgow were selected for Kilwaughter to consider repairs to the minister's house.<ref name="Porter3">Classon Porter, "Congregational Memoirs—Larne and Kilwaughter," ''The Christian Unitarian'', vol. 3 (1864), pp. 15–18; [https://archive.org/details/christianunitari0003unse Internet Archive].</ref>

The date falls in the period conventionally written 1700/1 when double-dating pre-1752 records.

The recurrence of:

* the same uncommon name;
* the same Kilwaughter locality;
* John being explicitly styled ''senior'';
* plain John being paired again with Patrick Agnew;
* and [[Glasgow-1081|James Glasgow]] also appearing in Kilwaughter affairs about 1700;

makes it more probable that the congregational John was the '''same man''' as Jo Glascho, householder at Kilwaughter in 1669, rather than an undocumented son of that man.<ref name="Porter3" />

The identification remains inferential because no surviving entry explicitly says that the 1669 and c.1700 men were identical.

=== Family ===

[[Glasgow-1081|James Glasgow]] was recorded immediately beside John at Kilwaughter in 1669.<ref name="Hearth1669" /> About 1700 a James Glasgow was appointed overseer for Kilwaughter during work on the minister's house.<ref name="Porter3" />

The repeated John-and-James presence in the same small district strengthens the case that they belonged to one close family cluster. Their exact relationship remains unknown.

John is currently placed as an uncertain son of [[Glasgow-3970|Robert Glasgow]], the Robert ''Glaskow'' associated with Larne during the period of the 1641 rebellion.<ref name="RobertLarne">Trinity College Dublin, MS 838, fol. 153r, examination of Con O'Sheale, 21 April 1653, identifier 838153r210; Robert is described as "one Robert Glaskow liuing in Larne"; [https://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/42821.html 1641 Depositions Project transcription].</ref>

That parentage remains a reconstruction from chronology, locality and surname continuity. No record names Robert as John's father.

John's wife is unknown.

== Research Notes ==

=== The younger John implied by "senior" ===

The repeated designation '''John Glasgow, sen.''' strongly suggests that another, younger John Glasgow was known to the congregation by about 1700.

The same group of congregational extracts uses other age qualifiers, including ''Robert Mea, jun.'' and ''John Kerr, sen.'', showing that such distinctions were actively used in the source.<ref name="Porter2" />

No located published extract explicitly names a '''John Glasgow junior''', however, and ''senior'' does not itself prove a father-son relationship. The younger namesake could have been:

* John's son;
* a nephew;
* a cousin;
* another younger member of the same Glasgow cluster.

'''A son is a plausible hypothesis, but not yet a relationship suitable for attachment without further evidence.'''

The important distinction is therefore:

:'''Probable:''' Jo Glascho of Kilwaughter in 1669 = John Glasgow senior of Kilwaughter c.1700.
:'''Possible:''' the younger John implied by ''senior'' was his son.
:'''Unknown:''' the younger John's identity and later history.

No reliable WikiTree profile has yet been identified for this younger namesake.

=== Could the c.1700 senior have been a son of the 1669 John? ===

It is chronologically possible but presently less likely.

A male householder in 1669 could readily still have been active about 1700. Even if John had been only about twenty-one in 1669, he would have been about fifty-two by 1700 — entirely compatible with being the established ''senior'' John, a head of family and congregational bondsman.

Making the c.1700 senior a son instead requires an additional same-name generation for which no record has yet been found. It would also require some other younger John to explain why that second-generation John was himself called ''senior''.

The simpler reconstruction fits all presently located evidence without adding an undocumented generation.

'''Current assessment: same person probable; father-son replacement possible but unsupported.'''

=== Parentage and Scottish hypothesis ===

The current uncertain father hypothesis should distinguish two separate questions.

[[Glasgow-3970|Robert Glasgow]] is the Robert ''Glaskow'' associated with Larne in the 1653 examination.<ref name="RobertLarne" /> He is a plausible earlier member of the Larne–Kilwaughter Glasgow family and is currently attached as John's uncertain father.

A separate [[Glasgow-1078|Robert Glasgow]] was recorded in Glasgow, Scotland, in 1618. That Scottish Robert has been proposed as identical with the Larne Robert, but no documentary migration or identity bridge has been found.

The two hypotheses should not be collapsed:

* Robert of Larne → John of Kilwaughter: '''possible; unproved'''.
* Scottish Robert → Robert of Larne: '''possible identity; unproved'''.

John's mother remains unknown.

=== Record survival ===

Porter's nineteenth-century publication is derivative: he stated that the original early congregational record could not then be found and that he was using a transcript.<ref name="Porter2" />

There is now a more concrete archival route. Modern scholarship identifies surviving Larne and Kilwaughter session material for 1699–1701 and 1720–1769 and cites '''PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B'''.<ref name="Whan">Robert Whan, ''The Presbyterians of Ulster, 1680–1730'' (Boydell Press, 2013), introduction and bibliography, identifying Larne and Kilwaughter session records for 1699–1701 and 1720–1769 and citing PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B; [https://resolve.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/C038A358FF15C0285190286F12E951A4/9781782041894bib_p202-230_CBO.pdf/bibliography.pdf Cambridge bibliography].</ref>

The early section should be inspected directly to determine its precise relationship to the transcript used by Porter and, more importantly, whether entries omitted from his topical extracts identify the younger John Glasgow.

=== Suggested structured data ===

* '''First name:''' John
* '''Last name at birth:''' Glasgow
* '''Recorded spelling:''' Glascho
* '''Birth:''' before 1651, place unknown, uncertain
* '''Death:''' after about 1700, place unknown, uncertain, if the 1669 and c.1700 records are accepted as the same man
* '''Residence:''' Kilwaughter Demesne, County Antrim, 1669
* '''Later residence/association:''' Kilwaughter, c.1699–1700/1, probable same person
* '''Father:''' [[Glasgow-3970|Robert Glasgow]], uncertain
* '''Mother:''' unknown
* '''Relationship to [[Glasgow-1081|James Glasgow]]:''' probable close relative; exact relationship unknown
* '''Spouse:''' unknown
* '''Children:''' none proved
* '''Possible child:''' an unidentified younger John Glasgow implied by the designation ''John Glasgow, sen.''

=== Priority Research ===

* '''PRONI MIC1B/6A/1B — Larne and Kilwaughter session book, 1699–1701 and 1720–1769.'''
** Inspect the complete early section rather than Porter's selected extracts.
** Search every occurrence of Glasgow, Glasgo, Glascho, John, ''sen.'', ''jun.'', younger and elder.
** Concentrate on the entries surrounding 3 March 1699/1700, 17 May and 27 February 1700/1.
** Determine whether the implied younger John is named, and whether any relationship to John senior is stated.

* '''Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland — Antrim Presbytery minutes, 1697–1713.'''
** Inspect the original minute for the Larne deputation of 3 March 1699/1700 and subsequent Larne/Kilwaughter business.
** Porter quotes the Presbytery minute as naming plain "John Glasgow"; surrounding entries may contain a qualifier, residence or relationship omitted from the published extract.

* '''PRONI D282 and NRS GD154/505–534 — Kilwaughter estate material, approximately 1665–1710.'''
** Search for John Glasgow, Jo Glascho and variants, explicitly watching for simultaneous senior and junior tenants.
** Trace any holding occupied by John from the 1669 hearth roll into the early eighteenth century.
** A lease, renewal or succession entry naming a son, heir, widow or former tenant could distinguish the same-man and father-son hypotheses.

* '''PRONI T/808/14889 — 1666 County Antrim subsidy roll.'''
** Search John/Jo, James and Robert Glasgow under Glasgow, Glasgo, Glascho, Glaskow and Glascow.
** An earlier appearance of John in the same Kilwaughter tenancy cluster would further strengthen continuity into 1669 and c.1700.

== Sources ==
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