John Glasgow

Live profile correction — 30 August 2026

Saved and verified the Glenleslie wording: Sarah Alexander is recorded only as
a visitor, and William Alexander as John's brother-in-law. The biography no
longer promotes either entry into a specific relationship with Rose. Both
people and every census detail were retained.

Current conclusion

### Collateral update, 13 August 2026

Two new original civil records extend the family without solving John's own
parentage.

- The 1851 mortality schedule directly identifies Andrew `Glasgow-1050` as
  John's son. Samuel John `Glasgow-1419`'s 1866 marriage names his father as
  **Andrew Glasgow, labourer**. The age and County Antrim context make Andrew
  `Glasgow-1050` the strongest match, but the marriage omits the father's
  residence, so the father-son identity remains probable rather than certain.
- John `Glasgow-2407`, later farmer of Cross, named his father as **John
  Glasgow, farmer** in his original 1865 marriage. He is not the 1851 nephew:
  the nephew was married from 1839, whereas the 1865 groom was explicitly a
  bachelor. John-1022 is a possible father, but John `Glasgow-1657` of Cross is
  a geographically stronger competing candidate. Leave John-2407 parentless.

These results distinguish the married nephew, Robert's son John in America, the
Lisnagaver John/Samuel brother pair, and the Cross farmer as separate research
lines.

The newly reviewed Kilwaughter material supplies no evidence that this John was
a son of Robert Glasgow-1143. The 17 May 1747 discipline entry names no woman or
child. The 1 April 1772 petition places John under Larne, while Robert Glasgow,
James Glasgow and Hugh Shannon occur consecutively under Kilwaughter. Remove any
claim that the discipline case establishes John's father; the structured link
to Robert-1143 remains unsupported.

The records support two related-looking but not yet connected branches.

- John `Glasgow-867` and Samuel `Glasgow-2908` are proved brothers. John's
  original 1846 marriage names their likely father as **John Glasgow, farmer**.
  A family gravestone places the younger John's birth about 1816/17, although
  his 1851 age implies about 1801. John `Glasgow-1022` is a possible identity
  for the father, but the later date would make him about sixty-five at the
  birth and removes the basis for calling him the clear leading candidate. Keep
  both relationships uncertain and leave their mother blank.
- Alexander `Glasgow-951` should not be attached as John's son from the Mary
  evidence. Mary Glasgow was 28 in 1871 and therefore cannot be John's
  granddaughter Maryan, who was already 17 in 1851.
- Robert `Glasgow-1367` is not the Robert at Gortereghy. Household adjacency at
  Glenleslie is insufficient to make him John's son; leave Robert parentless.
- Daniel `Glasgow-3896` and Thomas `Glasgow-987` are proved brothers. Younger
  Alexander `Glasgow-951` is a possible brother or cousin. The Gortereghy Robert
  was most likely Alexander's proved son Robert `Glasgow-938`; without the
  Alexander–Thomas brother link, an uncle-nephew relationship is not proved.
- The exact relationship between the John and older-Alexander branches remains
  unknown. They may have been brothers, making the Lisnagaver heads cousins, but
  father-son and more distant collateral relationships remain possible.

The fuller 1851 Glenleslie return also exposes three unresolved branches which
should be pursued rather than forced into existing children. Ann Glasgow, 18,
and Mary Ann/`Maryan` Glasgow, 17, were explicitly John's granddaughters. Jane
Grimes, 5, and James Grimes, nine months, were also his grandchildren, implying
an unidentified child in a Grimes household. A married John Glasgow aged about
40 was explicitly John's **nephew**, providing direct evidence that John-1022
had at least one sibling or sibling-equivalent relationship still to identify.

John `Glasgow-2056` is only a candidate for that nephew, not an identification.
His original 1850 marriage names his father as **Henry Glasgow, farmer**. He can
be the census nephew only if Henry is independently shown to be John-1022's
brother or equivalent relative.

The adjacent George household contains George's wife Sarah Alexander, while
John's household contains his wife Rose Alexander, an unrelated-status visitor
also named Sarah Alexander and John's brother-in-law William Alexander. This is
a Glasgow-Alexander local network, but the record does not state how either
additional Alexander was related to Rose. The earlier Ballyboggy records extend that
network geographically and chronologically, but do not yet prove John-1022's
parentage: John Glasgow co-leased Ballyboggy with James Wier in 1740, and James
Glasgow plus James Glasgow junior occur there among Alexander and Wier occupiers
in 1825. Ballyboggy directly adjoins Glenleslie.

The current attachment to [[Glasgow-1505|William Glasgow of Larne]] remains a
valid uncertain working hypothesis, but the 1740 [[Glasgow-3959|John Glasgow of
Ballyboggy]] is the geographically stronger father-or-grandfather candidate.
The two models should remain open: neither record names John-1022 as a child.

See [family reconstruction](family_reconstruction.md).

Extended-family identity audit, 13 August 2026

The relationship labels in [Glenleslie house 21](https://durrushistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1851irishcensusreturnscommadelimitedtextfilejul24_071.pdf)
have now been audited against
the local research files, the current One-Tree export, live WikiTree searches,
the surviving Dunaghy census transcription and the free civil-registration
index. They have **not all been identified**.

| Census person | Present status |
| --- | --- |
| Ann Glasgow, 18, granddaughter | Represented by [[Glasgow-3168]], but her parents, later life and descendants remain unknown. |
| Maryan Glasgow, 17, granddaughter | No defensible profile. [[Glasgow-3167]] is a different Mary Glasgow, born about 1843 and daughter of Alexander `Glasgow-951`. |
| Jane Grimes, 5, and James Grimes, nine months, grandchildren | Neither child nor their parents has been identified. They are the only Grimes entries in the [surviving Dunaghy returns](https://durrushistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1851irishcensusreturnscommadelimitedtextfilejul24_071.pdf). No exact local marriage or matching Antrim-born 1901 household was found. A James Grimes who died in Ballycastle in 1870 aged 22 is a close but unproved candidate; the index gives no relative or original image. A Jane Grimes who died at Armagh in 1897 was Patrick Grimes's wife and is unlikely to be the child born with that surname. Live duplicate searching found `Grimes-1800`, born about 1850, but that profile belongs to a County Sligo family. Migration, childhood death, an earlier marriage, or a spelling variant remain possible. |
| John Glasgow, 40, nephew, married in 1839 | Not identified. He was resident with [[Glasgow-1022|John Glasgow]], while [[Glasgow-1367|Robert Glasgow]]'s same-aged son was explicitly absent in America. [[Glasgow-3474]], the married Lisnagaver farmer who died in 1885, is the best later-life candidate. [[Glasgow-2407]] was a bachelor in 1865 and is ruled out. |
| Sarah Alexander, 34, visitor | Not identified. She is not [[Alexander-22579]], the 40-year-old wife of George Glasgow in adjacent household 20. `Visitor` states no kinship or marriage. |
| William Alexander, deceased brother-in-law | Not identified. The label supports an Alexander connection to John or Rose, but does not prove Rose's birth surname because `brother-in-law` could describe more than one relationship. |

Recommended public-bio correction

The captured live biography currently calls Sarah “likely a relative of Rose”
and William “Rose's brother.” Replace those statements with:

```wikitext
* '''Sarah Alexander''', aged 34, was recorded as a visitor. She was born in County Antrim and could read. The return states no relationship to Rose; she was not [[Alexander-22579]], George Glasgow's wife in adjacent household 20.
* '''William Alexander''', aged 60, was recorded as John's brother-in-law and a labourer who died of rheumatism in 1846. The precise route of the in-law relationship is not stated. He was not [[Alexander-22578]], the Massachusetts man who died in 1821.
```

Retain both people and their census details; correct only the unsupported
identity and relationship claims.

The best no-fee continuation is to search the Grimes children under spelling
variants and migration records, and to reconstruct every age-compatible John
Glasgow who married about 1839. Those two routes can expose an otherwise
unnamed child and sibling of John without requiring a PRONI copy order.

Parentage and Y-DNA synthesis, 13 August 2026

Private family details withheld.

This result proves that Alexander's direct paternal line and James J's tested
line share a male Glasgow ancestor. It does **not** identify John as that
ancestor. The kit reported for Robert `Glasgow-1143` has only marker testing,
is genetic distance 10 from Alexander at Y-111, and has no confirmed downstream
Big Y placement. Using the present WikiTree pedigree to make John a descendant
of Robert, then using that assumed pedigree to interpret the marker match, would
be circular.

The best documentary placement remains the Dunaghy-Kilconway tenant network.
John could only have fathered Robert `Glasgow-1367` or older Alexander
`Glasgow-3904` through an unidentified relationship predating his reported 1791
marriage to Rose. A brother/cousin relationship among the older household heads
requires fewer assumptions than making both men John's sons. Leave John's own
parents unknown and keep the broader paternal relationship as a research
cluster rather than a structured edge.

A new candidate occurrence was found in the 1803 North Antrim agricultural
census: **John Glesco** at Carnbuck, Loughguile parish. He is the only entry in
the covered parishes that the compiler standardised as Glasgow rather than
Glass. John `Glasgow-1022`, then about 52, is age-compatible, but the census
gives no age, spouse, occupation or relation and Carnbuck is not Glenleslie.
The name should remain a candidate occurrence, not be folded into his biography
as fact.

Exact-name, spelling-variant, residence and townland searches of the volunteer
Registry of Deeds index found no deed naming John or a relative at Glenleslie,
Lisnagaver or Carnbuck. The negative is bounded by the incomplete index and
does not establish that no sublease or unindexed deed existed.

The complete published North Antrim portion of the 1796 Flaxgrowers' List has
no Glasgow, Glasgo or Glask entry. This is a bounded negative only: it records
premium recipients rather than all householders and cannot show that the family
had left Dunaghy.<ref>[https://www.billmacafee.com/1796flaxgrowerslist/1796flaxgrowersantrim.pdf Bill MacAfee, ''Flaxgrowers' List for the Parishes in North Antrim, 1796''].</ref>

Source findings

Private family details withheld.

Recommended working attachments

| Child | Proposed father | Mother | Status |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| John `Glasgow-867` | John `Glasgow-1022` | Unknown | Uncertain; low-moderate after gravestone review |
| Samuel `Glasgow-2908` | John `Glasgow-1022` | Unknown | Uncertain; moderate |

The next discovery targets are the parents of Ann and Mary Ann Glasgow, the
mother of the Grimes grandchildren, and the father of the forty-year-old nephew
John. Those identities can reveal additional children and a sibling of John-1022
without disturbing reasonable uncertain attachments already used for navigation.

Do not attach the older Alexander `Glasgow-3904` to `Glasgow-1022` as either
brother or son. Record the possible collateral relationship in notes until a
lease, revision book, church record, will, or DNA triangulation distinguishes
the alternatives.

Ellen's 1847 workhouse identity

[Ballymena Workhouse admission 4130](https://www.billmacafee.com/otherrecords/ballymenaworkhouse.pdf)
records [[Glasgow-1368|Ellen Glasgow]], age 22, married and deserted,
Presbyterian, of Glenleslie, on 13 May 1847. Her name, age, status and townland
closely match John's married daughter Ellen, age 26, in the 1851 household.
This independently confirms Ellen's local identity and married status.

The entry does not name Ellen's husband. The 1851 return calls Jane and James
Grimes John's grandchildren but does not call them Ellen's children. The
current Grimes spouse and child attachments should therefore remain uncertain.
This source strengthens John-to-Ellen; it does not identify John's parents or
prove Rose's maternity.

Identity of the resident nephew John Glasgow

The 1851 census of John Glasgow's Glenleslie household includes a married nephew, John Glasgow, aged 40, born about 1810–11, married in 1839 and working as a weaver. Robert Glasgow's nearby household separately records a forty-year-old son John as absent in '''America'''. The census therefore distinguishes the resident nephew from Robert's son. He also remains distinct from John Glasgow of Lisnagaver ([[Glasgow-867]]), who headed his own household in 1851 and died in 1895.

### Candidate assessment

| Profile | Assessment | Reason |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Glasgow-3474 | **Strongest current candidate** | The original civil register identifies him as a married farmer of **Lisnagaver**, aged 78, who died on 24 June 1885; his son James Glasgow of Lisnagaver reported the death. The age is reasonably compatible with the 1851 census and the immediate locality fits. He was then treated as distinct from [[Glasgow-867]], whose family gravestone records death in 1895; that distinction is superseded (see the assessment of 7 October 2026 below). No record yet directly calls the 1885 man Robert's son, so this remains probable rather than proved. |
| Glasgow-3140 | **Not the nephew; probably conflated** | Its parent attachment to Robert and Catherine corresponds to the son recorded in America in 1851, not the resident nephew. Its Elizabeth Fee and Samuel family belongs to an Armagh reconstruction: Samuel's published biography places his origin in County Armagh. A widowed farmer John Glasgow died at Killyreavy, County Armagh, on 27 December 1882, aged 66; his son-in-law James Campbell reported the death. Campbell had married Martha Jane Glasgow, daughter of John Glasgow, farmer of Killyreavy, in 1873. The Armagh family may therefore represent another John improperly combined with Robert's emigrant son. |
| Glasgow-2407 | **Ruled out** | His original 1865 marriage to Rachel Grey describes him as a bachelor. He therefore cannot be the John who reported that he had married in 1839. |

The resident nephew remains unidentified. Glasgow-3474 is the strongest of the
three proposed candidates because he was a married, age-compatible Lisnagaver
farmer, but no record yet explicitly connects him to John-1022 or Glenleslie.
Glasgow-2407 is ruled out, and Glasgow-3140 cannot be the nephew if its attachment
to Robert reflects the man explicitly recorded in America in 1851.

### Sources

* Ireland, Census, 1851, Dunaghy, County Antrim, household 21, John Glasgow, nephew, aged 40, married in 1839; FamilySearch record [QV9Y-WNGN](https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9Y-WNGN).
* General Register Office of Ireland, civil death register, Dervock registrar's district, John Glasgow, died 24 June 1885 at Lisnagaver, aged 78, married farmer; informant James Glasgow, son, Lisnagaver; [register image](https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06280/4799372.pdf), group registration ID 6910472.
* General Register Office of Ireland, civil death register, Keady registrar's district, John Glasgow, died 27 December 1882 at Killyreavy, aged 66, widowed farmer; informant James Campbell, son-in-law; [register image](https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06378/4830400.pdf), group registration ID 6285520.
* General Register Office of Ireland, civil marriage register, James Campbell and Martha Jane Glasgow, daughter of John Glasgow, farmer of Killyreavy, 20 February 1873; [register image](https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8128996.pdf), group registration ID 2807931.
* [Biographical Dictionary of the Australian Senate](https://biography.senate.gov.au/glasgow-thomas-william/), Thomas William Glasgow, identifying Samuel Glasgow's County Armagh origin.
* [Rasharkin Presbyterian graveyard transcription](https://genealogy.torrens.org/BannValley/church/RasharkinP/graveyard.html), memorial recording [[Glasgow-867|John Glasgow]]'s death in 1895.

Relationship assessment — superseded attachments, 6 October 2026

In the WikiTree snapshot of 28 September 2026, John Glasgow-1022's father is John Glasgow-3959 of Ballyboggy (uncertain), and John Glasgow-867 and Samuel Glasgow-2908 are attached to John Glasgow-4090, the record-defined John Glasgow, farmer. John-1022 is a disfavoured identity for that father: his 1851 Glenleslie household records a daughter Nancy who died in 1847 aged 36, while Nancy of Plattsburgh, Alexander Glasgow-951's probable sister, lived to 1891. The attachment to William Glasgow-1505 of Larne described above is historical, and the "William of Larne → John of Glenleslie → John of Lisnagaver" route no longer describes either the tree or the research.

Source findings

### Findmypast sweep — 7 October 2026

- **New candidate for the 1851 nephew John: a Glenleslie Catholic marriage, 1835.** Findmypast's *Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages* (National Library of Ireland registers, Glenravel, diocese of Down and Connor) records **John Glasgow of Glenleslie** marrying **Ann Reley of Glenleslie** on **11 February 1835** (`IRE/PRS/MAR/0404145/1`; NLI register vtls000633181, microfilm 05474-01). The same index records the baptism of **Hugh**, son of **John Glasgow** and **Ann(e)**, on **31 July 1836** at Glenravel; the two copies give the mother's surname as **Kelay** (`IRE/PRS/BAP/1894487`) and **Kelso**, with the address Skerry (`IRE/PRS/BAP/1896519`). These are probably misreadings of the same entry, and Kelay could be a misreading of Reley, but that is not proved. The 1851 nephew John, aged 40, married, was said to have married in 1839, not 1835, and Robert `Glasgow-1367`'s son John, also 40, was in America. So this John is a third candidate who may or may not be either of them. Read the NLI register images before using any of this.

Identity assessment — the resident nephew and Glasgow-3474, 7 October 2026

The candidate assessment above is superseded in part. The 1885 Lisnagaver death on which Glasgow-3474 was built ([register image](https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06280/4799372.pdf): John Glasgow, married farmer, 78, informant his son James of Lisnagaver) is now attributed, as probable, to John Glasgow-867 of Lisnagaver, and the 17 September 2026 live-session log reports Glasgow-3474 as merged into Glasgow-867. The gravestone's 1895 is treated as a probable error for 1885 (see `research/Glasgow-867/findings.md`). John-867 married as a bachelor in November 1846 and headed his own household at Lisnagaver (house 34) in 1851, aged fifty, with his brother Samuel. If the 1885 man is John-867, he cannot be the nephew, aged 40 and married since 1839, who was living in this Glenleslie household.

Glasgow-3474 is therefore no longer a separate candidate. The resident nephew remains unidentified; the 1835 Glenravel marriage of a John Glasgow of Glenleslie noted above is an unproved lead. The assessments of Glasgow-2407 and Glasgow-3140 are unchanged.

Recorded in `research/Glasgow-951/research-log-2026-09-17-live.md` (17 September 2026); carried into this file on 7 October 2026.