John Glasgow

Biography
An earlier working hypothesis proposed Robert Glasgow (abt.1710-abt.1772) as John's father based on Y-DNA, naming patterns, locations and ages. See Hypothesis: Parentage of John Glasgow-1022. No reviewed record proves this relationship.

A second working hypothesis considered Robert Glasgow (abt.1724-) because of the name Robert and the branch's Y-DNA proximity to Alexander Glasgow. This is also unproved.
Residency and Family Life in Ireland1851 Census
By the time of the 1851 Antrim Census, John Glasgow is recorded as being 100 years old, suggesting a birth year around 1751. He was married to Rose Alexander, aged 80, and they resided in Glenleslie, Dunaghy, Antrim. 1851 Irish Census Returns: detailed comma-delimited transcription (https://durrushistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1851irishcensusreturnscommadelimitedtextfilejul24_071.pdf), Glenleslie household 21. Bill MacAfee, 1851 Census, Barony of Kilconway (https://www.billmacafee.com/census/1851censuskilconway.pdf), Glenleslie household 21. Living with them were:

* Andrew Glasgow (1818-1848) (aged 30), their son, a linen weaver who had died in 1848 from consumption.
* Ellen Glasgow (abt.1825-) (aged 26), their daughter, a linen weaver who could read and write.
* Nancy Glasgow (abt.1815-abt.1847) (aged 36), their daughter who had died in 1847 from dysentery.
* John Glasgow (aged 40), their nephew, a vagrant who could not read.
** This nephew is not John Glasgow, whose 1850 marriage names Henry Glasgow as his father and conflicts with the census nephew's reported 1839 marriage.
* Ann Glasgow (1833-) (aged 18) and Mary Ann or Maryan Glasgow (aged 17; no compatible WikiTree profile identified), their granddaughters, both linen weavers.
* Jane Grimes (aged 5) and James Grimes (aged 9 months), their grandchildren

Also present were:

* Sarah Alexander (aged 34), a visitor, likely a relative of Rose.
* Barbera McKillop (aged 10), a servant winding quills.
* William Alexander (aged 60), Rose's brother, who had died in 1846 from rheumatism.

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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Glasgow || John || Head Of Family || 100 || - || Farmer || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Rose || Wife || 80 || - || None || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Andrew || Son || 30 || - || Linen Weaver || - || - || Consumption || 1848
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| Glasgow || Ellen || Daughter || 26 || - || Linen Weaver || Read & Write || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Nancy || Daughter || 36 || - || None || - || - || Dysentery || 1847
|}
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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Glasgow || John || Nephew || 40 || - || Vagrant || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
|-
| Glasgow || Ann || Grand Daughter || 18 || - || Linen Weaver || Read & Write || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Maryan || Grand Daughter || 17 || - || Linen Weaver || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Grimes || Jane || Grand Daughter || 5 || - || None || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Grimes || James || Grand Son || - || 9 || None || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
|}
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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Alexander || Sarah || Visitor || 34 || - || None || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| McKillop || Barbera || Servant || 10 || - || Winding Quills || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
|-
| Alexander || Wm || Brother In Law || 60 || - || Labourer || - || - || Rheumatism || 1846
|}

Observations:

* The presence of William Alexander (Brother-in-Law) and Sarah Alexander (Visitor) suggests that Rose's maiden name was Alexander.
* The ages of Rose and her children imply that she may have been beyond typical childbearing age when they were born, indicating:
* Rose may have been John Glasgow's second wife.
* From the 1851 Census, John appeared to be having children from at least ages 64-74
** 35 years prior where he could've been having children. 
** He would've been 28 when he had Robert Glasgow (abt.1779-) if it is his son. 
* There may be inaccuracies in the recorded ages.
* The grandchildren's parentage is uncertain:
* Ann and Maryan are unlikely to be Andrew's children due to his young age at their births.
* The Grimes grandchildren are born too late to be Nancy's children and too early to be Ellens. Unknown Grimes (abt.1815-)
Speculation and Context
John Glasgow's advanced age and the ages of his children raise questions about the accuracy of the records and the relationships within the household:

* Rose's Age and Maternity: If Rose was 80 in 1851, she would have been approximately 44 when Nancy was born, 50 when Andrew was born, and 54 when Ellen was born. These ages are beyond typical childbearing years for the era, suggesting Rose may not be the biological mother of these children.
* It's possible Rose was John's second wife, and the children are from an earlier marriage.
* Alternatively, there may be inaccuracies in the recorded ages.

Grandchildren's Parentage:
* Ann (18) and Maryan (17) are too old to be Andrew's children, as he would have been 12 and 13 at their births. They may be daughters of another, unlisted child of John.
* Jane Grimes (5) could be Nancy's child, given Nancy died in 1847, but James Grimes (9 months) was born after Nancy's death, suggesting another mother.

* Nephew John Glasgow (40): His presence suggests that John (the head) had a brother whose son is this nephew, indicating a wider family network in the area.
** Potentially Henry Glasgow (bef.1790-) who had a son John (1812) in Ireland (County Tyrone) 
Y-DNA Connections
John Glasgow is potentially a descendant of Hugh Glasgow (abt.1706-), through his son John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785), who settled in Tyrone, or his brother Robert Glasgow (abt.1737-abt.1787) of the Melanchthon branch.

Y-DNA analysis indicates:
* A 5-step genetic distance (suggesting a Most Recent Common Ancestor [MRCA] around 1650) between descendants of this branch and the Melanchthon branch.
* A 3-step genetic distance (MRCA around 1750) from Robert Glasgow (abt.1780-abt.1860), who settled in South Carolina.
Potential Ancestry
John Glasgow lists his birthplace as Antrim, reinforcing his roots in the region. This supports the possibility that he is descended from:

* William Glasgow (abt.1708-abt.1783), who was a descendant of James Glasgow (abt.1650-1726), an early migrant to Antrim around 1660.
* Similar to John Glasgow (abt.1775-) who was the son of James Glasgow, He was the father of William Glasgow (1811) and John Glasgow Jr (1814) in County Tyrone He was described in the History of Hillsdale County, Michigan.
* John Glasgow (abt.1815-1896) in Gortin, Derryloran, County Tyrone descended from John Glasgow (bef.1771-) in County Tyrone, Ireland. 
* John Glasgow (bef.1788-) in Killycurragh, Derryloran, County Tyrone, Ireland

This profile is similar to: 

* John Glasgow (bef.1750-), born in Midlothian, Scotland.
** Born in Mid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland, whereas this John lists his native county as Antrim. 
* John Glasgow (1740-), son of James Glasgow, recorded in the 1766 Religious Census for the Parish of Derryloran, County Tyrone, Ireland.
** Too old to be this John
* John Glasgow (bef.1747-) "m. Rose Allan in 1769. Born perhaps 1745-48? Probably not the same as John2 who was a ship’s captain in 1739"
** Could Rose Allan be a misinterpretation of Rose Alex? 
*** Father is listed as John Glasgow (bef.1730-) as born before 1739 based on the record of his sons birth to Margaret Anderson in West Calder, Midlothian. 
Research Notes1831 Census1831 Census
Note: These Glasgow's may be a seperate Londonderry branch, descended from John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785) and/or Robert Glasgow (abt.1737-abt.1787). John is listed as having no females in his family, Ellen and Nancy should've appeared here if this is the same John who appears on the 1851 Census. 

John Glasgow first appears in historical records in the 1831 Irish Census, residing in Lissane, Loughinshollin, Londonderry. His household included nine individuals, 3 of which were males. Alongside him, Robert Glasgow is also listed, with a household of three males, suggesting a possible familial connection. 1831 Irish Census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1831&surname=Glasgow&firstname=&county19011911=&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&exact=1&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=) 

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| Surname || Forename || Townland/Street || House Number || Barony || Parish || County || Number of families in each || Number of males in family || Number of females in family || Number in Established Church || Number of Roman Catholics || Number of Presbyterians
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| Glasgow || John || Dromain || 2 || Loughinshollin || Lissane || Londonderry || 1 || 3 || - || 2 || 2 || 3
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| Glasgow || Robt || Coltrim || 2 || Loughinshollin || Lissane || Londonderry || 1 || 6 || 5 || - || - || 11
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* John Glasgow (1780-1840) was born in Londonderry but had already emigrated to America by 1796.
** Hugh Glasgow (1739-abt.1831) the father of the aforementioned John and brother of John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785), was also born in Londonderry. 
** His father Hugh Glasgow (abt.1706-) was born in County Tyrone
Potential for Further Research
* Marriage Records: Locating John and Rose's marriage record could clarify Rose's age and their marriage date.
* Baptismal Records: Could confirm the children's parentage and correct ages.
* Death Records: May provide additional details about family relationships.
* Y-DNA Analysis: Continued genetic research could confirm connections to the Melanchthon branch.
Current researchOther possible children
John Glasgow and Samuel Glasgow of Lisnagaver
were brothers. The younger John's 1846 marriage names his father as John
Glasgow, farmer, and the 1851 census explicitly calls Samuel his
brother. IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=cima-3156063), civil marriage of John Glasgow and Margaret Garvin, 16 November 1846. 1851 Census of Ireland (https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Rasharkin/Lisnagaver/34/), Lisnagaver household 34. 

The younger John's family gravestone says that he died in 1895 aged seventy-
eight, implying birth about 1816 or 1817, although the 1851 return reported him
as fifty. Pauline O'Keeffe and Helen Evans, Rasharkin Second Presbyterian Church headstones (https://genealogy.torrens.org/BannValley/church/RasharkinP/graveyard.html), transcription made August 2004, Glasgo memorial erected by James Garvin Glasgo. If the gravestone age is correct, this John would have been about sixty-five when the younger John was born. He remains a possible identity for the named father, but the shared name and occupation do not identify him uniquely. Both relationships remain uncertain.

George Glasgow, whose wife Sarah was also an Alexander, headed
the immediately preceding Glenleslie household. His location, age and Alexander
association make him a plausible son, but no record calls him John's son. 

John Glasgow, a farmer at Cross in Ballyclug, married Rachel
Grey in 1865. The original certificate calls him a bachelor and names his father
as John Glasgow, farmer. General Register Office of Ireland, civil marriage register (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11578/8260226.pdf), John Glasgow and Rachel Grey, 11 September 1865. His 1874 death age implies birth about 1809. General Register Office of Ireland, civil death register (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020673/7253774.pdf), John Glasgow, Cross, 27 January 1874. He is another possible son of a local John farmer. He is not the 1851 nephew, who was recorded as married since 1839. John Glasgow of Cross, who died in 1836, is a competing and geographically closer father candidate, so no attachment to this John is justified yet.
Unresolved grandchildren and nephew
Ann and Mary Ann Glasgow retained the Glasgow surname, but their father or
mother has not been identified. Jane and James Grimes imply that another child
of John had formed a Grimes family. No compatible civil marriage was found for
Jane Grimes in the Ballymena district after 1860.

The forty-year-old nephew is especially important because his father should
identify a brother or brother-equivalent of John. John Glasgow
was considered, but his 1850 marriage names his father as Henry Glasgow, farmer,
and no record makes that Henry John's brother. General Register Office of Ireland, civil marriage register (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09386/5399841.pdf), John Glasgow and Matilda Little, 1850. 
Parentage and local cluster
No inspected record identifies John's parents. Robert Glasgow
was previously attached as his father, but the reviewed Kilwaughter church and
petition material never names John as Robert's son. The relationship is a tree
reconstruction rather than a documented fact.

William Glasgow of Larne is currently retained as John's
uncertain father. Their ages are compatible, but no baptism, will, deed or
church entry names John as William's son, and no record bridges William's Larne
property to John's later Glenleslie household.

Robert Glasgow headed Glenleslie household 23. He was born
about 1779, twelve years before John and Rose's reported marriage, and the census
does not call him John's son. He was therefore removed from this family and his
parents were left blank. 1851 Census of Ireland (https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Dunaghy/Glenleslie/23/), Glenleslie household 23. 

The older Ballyboggy records provide a competing local ancestry. The 1740
Protestant Householders' Return records Joh Glask in Dunaghy, and a
three-life lease identifies John Glasgow and James Wier as
joint Ballyboggy tenants. Bill MacAfee, Protestant Householders' Returns, 1740 (https://www.billmacafee.com/1740returns/1740religiousreturnsulstername.pdf), record 2107, Joh Glask, Dunaghy. Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, D2223/15/56, Ballyboggy title-deed bundle, lease of 1740; PRONI eCatalogue (https://apps.proni.gov.uk/eCatNI_IE/SearchPage.aspx). He was an adult before this John was born and is therefore a plausible father, grandfather or collateral relative. The lease description does not name his children.

James Glasgow and James Glasgow junior were among the Ballyboggy tithe
occupiers in 1825. Ballyboggy adjoins Glenleslie, and the same records repeatedly
contain Alexander and Wier households. Bill MacAfee, North Antrim Tithe Applotment Books arranged in document order (https://www.billmacafee.com/182030stithe/tithenorthantrimrevisionorder.pdf), Dunaghy parish, Ballyboggy, 1825. This is evidence for a long-running local tenant network, not a parent-child chain.
Y-DNA
A direct paternal descendant of Alexander Glasgow of Lisnagaver
and the tested line of James J Glasgow share the confirmed
R-FT20271 branch and are genetic distance three at Y-111. The result supports a
shared male Glasgow ancestor, probably several generations earlier, but it does
not identify John as that ancestor or distinguish whether the Glenleslie and
Lisnagaver household heads were brothers, cousins or more distant relatives. FamilyTreeDNA Glasgow Surname Project, public Y-DNA results (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Glasgow?iframe=ydna-results-overview), kits B580327 and 1002232. 
Additional searches
The National Archives 1831 surname search (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1831&surname=Glasgow&firstname=&county19011911=&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&exact=1&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=) and the derivative FamilySearch tree (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MM3D-24G) are retained as research leads; neither identifies John's parents.
See Also
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* Chronology of the Glasgow Family in Northern Ireland in Historical Context (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Chronology_of_the_Glasgow_Family_in_Northern_Ireland_in_Historical_Context)
* FamilySearch Record for John Glasgow (possible mother-in-law Jeane Cunninghame) (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MM3D-24G)
Sources

== Biography ==

[[Category:Glasgow Name Study]]
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An earlier working hypothesis proposed [[Glasgow-1143|Robert Glasgow (abt.1710-abt.1772)]] as John's father based on Y-DNA, naming patterns, locations and ages. See [[Space:Hypothesis:_Parentage_of_John_Glasgow-1022|Hypothesis: Parentage of John Glasgow-1022]]. No reviewed record proves this relationship.

A second working hypothesis considered [[Glasgow-2425|Robert Glasgow (abt.1724-)]] because of the name Robert and the branch's Y-DNA proximity to [[Glasgow-951|Alexander Glasgow]]. This is also unproved.
=== Residency and Family Life in Ireland ===



==== 1851 Census ====

By the time of the '''1851 Antrim Census''', John Glasgow is recorded as being '''100 years old''', suggesting a birth year around '''1751'''. He was married to '''Rose Alexander''', aged '''80''', and they resided in Glenleslie, Dunaghy, Antrim.<ref name="Glenleslie1851Detailed">[https://durrushistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1851irishcensusreturnscommadelimitedtextfilejul24_071.pdf ''1851 Irish Census Returns: detailed comma-delimited transcription''], Glenleslie household 21.</ref><ref name="Glenleslie1851Macafee">[https://www.billmacafee.com/census/1851censuskilconway.pdf Bill MacAfee, ''1851 Census, Barony of Kilconway''], Glenleslie household 21.</ref> Living with them were:

* '''[[Glasgow-1050|Andrew Glasgow (1818-1848)]]''' (aged 30), their son, a linen weaver who had died in 1848 from consumption.
* '''[[Glasgow-1368|Ellen Glasgow (abt.1825-)]]''' (aged 26), their daughter, a linen weaver who could read and write.
* '''[[Glasgow-1369|Nancy Glasgow (abt.1815-abt.1847)]]''' (aged 36), their daughter who had died in 1847 from dysentery.
* '''John Glasgow''' (aged 40), their nephew, a vagrant who could not read.
** This nephew is not [[Glasgow-2056|John Glasgow]], whose 1850 marriage names Henry Glasgow as his father and conflicts with the census nephew's reported 1839 marriage.
* '''[[Glasgow-3168|Ann Glasgow (1833-)]]''' (aged 18) and '''Mary Ann or Maryan Glasgow''' (aged 17; no compatible WikiTree profile identified), their granddaughters, both linen weavers.
* '''Jane Grimes''' (aged 5) and '''James Grimes''' (aged 9 months), their grandchildren

Also present were:

* '''Sarah Alexander''' (aged 34), a visitor, likely a relative of Rose.
* '''Barbera McKillop''' (aged 10), a servant winding quills.
* '''William Alexander''' (aged 60), Rose's brother, who had died in 1846 from rheumatism.

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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Glasgow || John || Head Of Family || 100 || - || Farmer || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Rose || Wife || 80 || - || None || Read || Antrim || - || -
|-
| Glasgow || Andrew || Son || 30 || - || Linen Weaver || - || - || Consumption || 1848
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| Glasgow || Ellen || Daughter || 26 || - || Linen Weaver || Read & Write || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Nancy || Daughter || 36 || - || None || - || - || Dysentery || 1847
|}
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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Glasgow || John || Nephew || 40 || - || Vagrant || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Ann || Grand Daughter || 18 || - || Linen Weaver || Read & Write || Antrim || - || -
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| Glasgow || Maryan || Grand Daughter || 17 || - || Linen Weaver || Read || Antrim || - || -
|-
| Grimes || Jane || Grand Daughter || 5 || - || None || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Grimes || James || Grand Son || - || 9 || None || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
|}
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| Surname || Forename || Relation || Age (Years) || Age (Months) || Occupation || Education || Birth Place || Cause of Death || Year of Death
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| Alexander || Sarah || Visitor || 34 || - || None || Read || Antrim || - || -
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| McKillop || Barbera || Servant || 10 || - || Winding Quills || Cannot Read || Antrim || - || -
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| Alexander || Wm || Brother In Law || 60 || - || Labourer || - || - || Rheumatism || 1846
|}


'''Observations:'''


* The presence of '''William Alexander''' (Brother-in-Law) and '''Sarah Alexander''' (Visitor) suggests that Rose's maiden name was '''Alexander'''.
* The ages of Rose and her children imply that she may have been beyond typical childbearing age when they were born, indicating:
* Rose may have been '''John Glasgow's second wife'''.
* From the 1851 Census, John appeared to be having children from at least ages 64-74
** 35 years prior where he could've been having children. 
** He would've been 28 when he had [[Glasgow-1367|Robert Glasgow (abt.1779-)]] if it is his son. 
* There may be inaccuracies in the recorded ages.
* The grandchildren's parentage is uncertain:
*  '''Ann''' and '''Maryan''' are unlikely to be Andrew's children due to his young age at their births.
*  The Grimes grandchildren are born too late to be Nancy's children and too early to be Ellens. [[Grimes-6878|Unknown Grimes (abt.1815-)]]


=== Speculation and Context ===

John Glasgow's advanced age and the ages of his children raise questions about the accuracy of the records and the relationships within the household:

* '''Rose's Age and Maternity''': If Rose was 80 in 1851, she would have been approximately 44 when Nancy was born, 50 when Andrew was born, and 54 when Ellen was born. These ages are beyond typical childbearing years for the era, suggesting Rose may not be the biological mother of these children.
*  It's possible Rose was '''John's second wife''', and the children are from an earlier marriage.
* Alternatively, there may be inaccuracies in the recorded ages.

'''Grandchildren's Parentage''':
*  '''Ann (18)''' and '''Maryan (17)''' are too old to be Andrew's children, as he would have been 12 and 13 at their births. They may be daughters of another, unlisted child of John.
*  '''Jane Grimes (5)''' could be Nancy's child, given Nancy died in 1847, but '''James Grimes (9 months)''' was born after Nancy's death, suggesting another mother.

* '''Nephew John Glasgow (40)''': His presence suggests that John (the head) had a brother whose son is this nephew, indicating a wider family network in the area.
** Potentially [[Glasgow-3135|Henry Glasgow (bef.1790-)]] who had a son John (1812) in Ireland (County Tyrone) 

== Y-DNA Connections ==

John Glasgow is potentially a descendant of [[Glasgow-548|Hugh Glasgow (abt.1706-)]], through his son [[Glasgow-549|John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785)]], who settled in Tyrone, or his brother [[Glasgow-550|Robert Glasgow (abt.1737-abt.1787)]] of the Melanchthon branch.

Y-DNA analysis indicates:
* A 5-step genetic distance (suggesting a Most Recent Common Ancestor [MRCA] around 1650) between descendants of this branch and the Melanchthon branch.
* A 3-step genetic distance (MRCA around 1750) from [[Glasgow-2769|Robert Glasgow (abt.1780-abt.1860)]], who settled in South Carolina.

=== Potential Ancestry ===

John Glasgow lists his birthplace as '''Antrim''', reinforcing his roots in the region. This supports the possibility that he is descended from:

* '''[[Glasgow-1505|William Glasgow (abt.1708-abt.1783)]]''', who was a descendant of '''[[Glasgow-1081|James Glasgow (abt.1650-1726)]]''', an early migrant to Antrim around 1660.
* Similar to [[Glasgow-1968|John Glasgow (abt.1775-)]] who was the son of James Glasgow, He was the father of William Glasgow (1811) and John Glasgow Jr (1814) in County Tyrone He was described in the History of Hillsdale County, Michigan.
* [[Glasgow-2537|John Glasgow (abt.1815-1896)]] in Gortin, Derryloran, County Tyrone descended from [[Glasgow-2539|John Glasgow (bef.1771-)]] in County Tyrone, Ireland. 
* [[Glasgow-2058|John Glasgow (bef.1788-)]] in Killycurragh, Derryloran, County Tyrone, Ireland

This profile is similar to: 

* [[Glasgow-2980|John Glasgow (bef.1750-)]], born in Midlothian, Scotland.
** Born in Mid Calder, Midlothian, Scotland, whereas this John lists his native county as Antrim. 
* [[Glasgow-2990|John Glasgow (1740-)]], son of James Glasgow, recorded in the 1766 Religious Census for the Parish of Derryloran, County Tyrone, Ireland.
** Too old to be this John
* [[Glasgow-2846|John Glasgow (bef.1747-)]] "m. Rose Allan in 1769. Born perhaps 1745-48? Probably not the same as John2 who was a ship’s captain in 1739"
** Could Rose Allan be a misinterpretation of Rose Alex? 
*** Father is listed as [[Glasgow-2847|John Glasgow (bef.1730-)]] as born before 1739 based on the record of his sons birth to  Margaret Anderson in West Calder, Midlothian. 
== Research Notes ==

=== 1831 Census ===


==== 1831 Census ====

Note: These Glasgow's may be a seperate Londonderry branch, descended from [[Glasgow-549|John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785)]] and/or [[Glasgow-550|Robert Glasgow (abt.1737-abt.1787)]]. John is listed as having no females in his family, Ellen and Nancy should've appeared here if this is the same John who appears on the 1851 Census. 

John Glasgow first appears in historical records in the '''1831 Irish Census''', residing in Lissane, Loughinshollin, Londonderry. His household included nine individuals, 3 of which were males. Alongside him, '''Robert Glasgow''' is also listed, with a household of three males, suggesting a possible familial connection.<ref>[http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1831&surname=Glasgow&firstname=&county19011911=&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&exact=1&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving= 1831 Irish Census]</ref>

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|- bgcolor=#E1F0B4
| Surname || Forename || Townland/Street || House Number || Barony || Parish || County || Number of families in each || Number of males in family || Number of females in family || Number in Established Church || Number of Roman Catholics || Number of Presbyterians
|-
| Glasgow || John || Dromain || 2 || Loughinshollin || Lissane || Londonderry || 1 || 3 || - || 2 || 2 || 3
|-
| Glasgow || Robt || Coltrim || 2 || Loughinshollin || Lissane || Londonderry || 1 || 6 || 5 || - || - || 11
|}

* [[Glasgow-209|John Glasgow (1780-1840)]] was born in Londonderry but had already emigrated to America by 1796.
** [[Glasgow-540|Hugh Glasgow (1739-abt.1831)]] the father of the aforementioned John and brother of [[Glasgow-549|John Glasgow (abt.1735-abt.1785)]], was also born in Londonderry. 
** His father [[Glasgow-548|Hugh Glasgow (abt.1706-)]] was born in County Tyrone

=== Potential for Further Research ===

* '''Marriage Records''': Locating John and Rose's marriage record could clarify Rose's age and their marriage date.
* '''Baptismal Records''': Could confirm the children's parentage and correct ages.
* '''Death Records''': May provide additional details about family relationships.
* '''Y-DNA Analysis''': Continued genetic research could confirm connections to the Melanchthon branch.


=== Current research ===

==== Other possible children ====

[[Glasgow-867|John Glasgow]] and [[Glasgow-2908|Samuel Glasgow]] of Lisnagaver
were brothers. The younger John's 1846 marriage names his father as '''John
Glasgow, farmer''', and the 1851 census explicitly calls Samuel his
brother.<ref name="JohnMarriage1846">[https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=cima-3156063 IrishGenealogy.ie], civil marriage of John Glasgow and Margaret Garvin, 16 November 1846.</ref><ref name="Lisnagaver1851">[https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Rasharkin/Lisnagaver/34/ 1851 Census of Ireland], Lisnagaver household 34.</ref>

The younger John's family gravestone says that he died in 1895 aged seventy-
eight, implying birth about 1816 or 1817, although the 1851 return reported him
as fifty.<ref name="RasharkinStone">[https://genealogy.torrens.org/BannValley/church/RasharkinP/graveyard.html Pauline O'Keeffe and Helen Evans, ''Rasharkin Second Presbyterian Church headstones''], transcription made August 2004, Glasgo memorial erected by James Garvin Glasgo.</ref> If the gravestone age is correct, this John would have been about sixty-five when the younger John was born. He remains a possible identity for the named father, but the shared name and occupation do not identify him uniquely. Both relationships remain uncertain.

[[Glasgow-1400|George Glasgow]], whose wife Sarah was also an Alexander, headed
the immediately preceding Glenleslie household. His location, age and Alexander
association make him a plausible son, but no record calls him John's son.<ref name="Glenleslie1851Macafee" />

[[Glasgow-2407|John Glasgow]], a farmer at Cross in Ballyclug, married Rachel
Grey in 1865. The original certificate calls him a bachelor and names his father
as '''John Glasgow, farmer'''.<ref name="CrossMarriage1865">[https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11578/8260226.pdf General Register Office of Ireland, civil marriage register], John Glasgow and Rachel Grey, 11 September 1865.</ref> His 1874 death age implies birth about 1809.<ref name="CrossDeath1874">[https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020673/7253774.pdf General Register Office of Ireland, civil death register], John Glasgow, Cross, 27 January 1874.</ref> He is another possible son of a local John farmer. He is not the 1851 nephew, who was recorded as married since 1839. [[Glasgow-1657|John Glasgow of Cross]], who died in 1836, is a competing and geographically closer father candidate, so no attachment to this John is justified yet.

==== Unresolved grandchildren and nephew ====

Ann and Mary Ann Glasgow retained the Glasgow surname, but their father or
mother has not been identified. Jane and James Grimes imply that another child
of John had formed a Grimes family. No compatible civil marriage was found for
Jane Grimes in the Ballymena district after 1860.

The forty-year-old nephew is especially important because his father should
identify a brother or brother-equivalent of John. [[Glasgow-2056|John Glasgow]]
was considered, but his 1850 marriage names his father as Henry Glasgow, farmer,
and no record makes that Henry John's brother.<ref name="John2056Marriage">[https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09386/5399841.pdf General Register Office of Ireland, civil marriage register], John Glasgow and Matilda Little, 1850.</ref>

==== Parentage and local cluster ====

No inspected record identifies John's parents. [[Glasgow-1143|Robert Glasgow]]
was previously attached as his father, but the reviewed Kilwaughter church and
petition material never names John as Robert's son. The relationship is a tree
reconstruction rather than a documented fact.

[[Glasgow-1505|William Glasgow of Larne]] is currently retained as John's
uncertain father. Their ages are compatible, but no baptism, will, deed or
church entry names John as William's son, and no record bridges William's Larne
property to John's later Glenleslie household.

[[Glasgow-1367|Robert Glasgow]] headed Glenleslie household 23. He was born
about 1779, twelve years before John and Rose's reported marriage, and the census
does not call him John's son. He was therefore removed from this family and his
parents were left blank.<ref name="Robert1851">[https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1851/Antrim/Kilconway/Dunaghy/Glenleslie/23/ 1851 Census of Ireland], Glenleslie household 23.</ref>

The older Ballyboggy records provide a competing local ancestry. The 1740
Protestant Householders' Return records '''Joh Glask''' in Dunaghy, and a
three-life lease identifies [[Glasgow-3959|John Glasgow]] and James Wier as
joint Ballyboggy tenants.<ref name="Householders1740">[https://www.billmacafee.com/1740returns/1740religiousreturnsulstername.pdf Bill MacAfee, ''Protestant Householders' Returns, 1740''], record 2107, Joh Glask, Dunaghy.</ref><ref name="BallyboggyLease1740">Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, D2223/15/56, Ballyboggy title-deed bundle, lease of 1740; [https://apps.proni.gov.uk/eCatNI_IE/SearchPage.aspx PRONI eCatalogue].</ref> He was an adult before this John was born and is therefore a plausible father, grandfather or collateral relative. The lease description does not name his children.

James Glasgow and James Glasgow junior were among the Ballyboggy tithe
occupiers in 1825. Ballyboggy adjoins Glenleslie, and the same records repeatedly
contain Alexander and Wier households.<ref name="Tithe1825">[https://www.billmacafee.com/182030stithe/tithenorthantrimrevisionorder.pdf Bill MacAfee, ''North Antrim Tithe Applotment Books arranged in document order''], Dunaghy parish, Ballyboggy, 1825.</ref> This is evidence for a long-running local tenant network, not a parent-child chain.

==== Y-DNA ====

A direct paternal descendant of [[Glasgow-951|Alexander Glasgow of Lisnagaver]]
and the tested line of [[Glasgow-2738|James J Glasgow]] share the confirmed
R-FT20271 branch and are genetic distance three at Y-111. The result supports a
shared male Glasgow ancestor, probably several generations earlier, but it does
not identify John as that ancestor or distinguish whether the Glenleslie and
Lisnagaver household heads were brothers, cousins or more distant relatives.<ref name="FTDNA">[https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Glasgow?iframe=ydna-results-overview FamilyTreeDNA Glasgow Surname Project, public Y-DNA results], kits B580327 and 1002232.</ref>

==== Additional searches ====

The [http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1831&surname=Glasgow&firstname=&county19011911=&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&exact=1&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving= National Archives 1831 surname search] and the derivative [https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MM3D-24G FamilySearch tree] are retained as research leads; neither identifies John's parents.

== See Also ==
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* [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Chronology_of_the_Glasgow_Family_in_Northern_Ireland_in_Historical_Context Chronology of the Glasgow Family in Northern Ireland in Historical Context]
* [https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MM3D-24G FamilySearch Record for John Glasgow (possible mother-in-law Jeane Cunninghame)]


== Sources ==


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